We need streamer free servers

Many people don’t want to play on servers with streamers. The whole Asmongold incident is a great example of why. I think there should be some servers that ban streamers so that players who don’t like the negatives that streamers can bring to the game don’t have to deal with them. I think this is the best way to make everyone happy.

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thruvangarr

Pyrolol wrote: »

Cry babies

cmes from someone with "lol" at the end of his name... boring...

Streamers are a fucking plague and i wish them just the bad. They ruin almost every MMO with their exploit/bug using, toxic behaviors and all the dumb and premature ppl they bring with them.

Pyrolol

thruvangarr wrote: »

Pyrolol wrote: »

Cry babies

cmes from someone with "lol" at the end of his name... boring...

Streamers are a fucking plague and i wish them just the bad. They ruin almost every MMO with their exploit/bug using, toxic behaviors and all the dumb and premature ppl they bring with them.

Original names taken, adding lol at the end is an old school WoW take of making an alt character

Sometimes they don’t, they add heaps of people who generally wouldn’t have looked twice at an MMO take interest in it, and give it a go and also, people can learn a thing or two off watching streamers or yet not what to do

Trying to see how streamers who literally stream where they are affects your gameplay at all when you can just avoid?

Endowed

Streamers are the ultimate RMT.

The amount of real money acquired from in game actions is incredible.

Endowed

CROW3 wrote: »

Streamers are fine, they are a net benefit to Ashes. There’s just going to be a persistent risk for those streamers to be pestered.

I’d rather the community work this out instead of the devs regulating it.

They help Ashes $$$, hurt the servers/players. Always been that way across many mmos.

As long as its cool to snipe them -- just like it's cool to spy/inside guilds. Information is king.

CROW3

Why do you feel the need to do anything to or around them? Just do your thing. Let them do their thing.

Endowed

CROW3 wrote: »

Why do you feel the need to do anything to or around them? Just do your thing. Let them do their thing.

They disrupt servers -- terribly so.

Flashfirez23

Endowed wrote: »

CROW3 wrote: »

Why do you feel the need to do anything to or around them? Just do your thing. Let them do their thing.

They disrupt servers -- terribly so.

Exactly. Everyone on a server will be impacted. Ashes is not like other games where other players impacts don’t affect you. Every action matters especially large scale ones. I’d rather not be in the middle of two streamers fighting for dominance over a server and have all the drama that comes with it. Also, as we have seen with Asmongold they get special treatment.

Podgnil

i agree, here should be server for streamers, they with thear humsters will have thear own santabarbara. they becone clan leaders, maers... have war between each ather.
I dont want to play with streamer clan, and btw dont want loose war becouse against me man with 3000 followers from twitch. its unfair such p2w) but i global meaning, its breaks world balance.

Gizban

Its a question. If feels like half of Lyneth is Thor's guild.

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Flashfirez23 wrote: »

Many people don’t want to play on servers with streamers. The whole Asmongold incident is a great example of why. I think there should be some servers that ban streamers so that players who don’t like the negatives that streamers can bring to the game don’t have to deal with them. I think this is the best way to make everyone happy.

YES THIS! +1

I actually didn't mind the Asmon thing but streamers just completely destroy natural game ecosystems. its like adding in a virus or pest species to an environment when it has no natural predator

Veeshan

but now we get a single server instead with no possible way to avoid them

Dolyem

Make streamer specific servers. And if streamers still happen to play on non-streamer servers, just don't protect them with TOS for griefing on those servers so they are able to be deterred by the populace if they do not wish for them to be there. Seems simple enough.

Dreoh

Flashfirez23 wrote: »

Many people don’t want to play on servers with streamers. The whole Asmongold incident is a great example of why. I think there should be some servers that ban streamers so that players who don’t like the negatives that streamers can bring to the game don’t have to deal with them. I think this is the best way to make everyone happy.

So then don't play on the ones they choose?

Edit: These posts also never take into account the actual size of the completed world. The drama that's happening with the alpha will not be happening at the scale it is when the game is launched.

The alpha map size is what.. 1/5th of the whole map size?

If you think streamers are going to have the same influence in a world that big with travel times as they (rightfully) are, you are overreacting

Dolyem wrote: »

..And if streamers still happen to play on non-streamer servers, just don't protect them with TOS for griefing on those servers..

Can you show me where Intrepid said they wouldn't be doing that already?

Dolyem

Dreoh wrote: »

Flashfirez23 wrote: »

Many people don’t want to play on servers with streamers. The whole Asmongold incident is a great example of why. I think there should be some servers that ban streamers so that players who don’t like the negatives that streamers can bring to the game don’t have to deal with them. I think this is the best way to make everyone happy.

So then don't play on the ones they choose?

Edit: These posts also never take into account the actual size of the completed world. The drama that's happening with the alpha will not be happening at the scale it is when the game is launched.

The alpha map size is what.. 1/5th of the whole map size?

If you think streamers are going to have the same influence in a world that big with travel times as they (rightfully) are, you are overreacting

Dolyem wrote: »

..And if streamers still happen to play on non-streamer servers, just don't protect them with TOS for griefing on those servers..

Can you show me where Intrepid said they wouldn't be doing that already?

What do you mean? This is just my suggestion

Sathrago

So if i start streaming do i get a free transfer to the streamer server or do they force charge my account? Do i get to keep all the materials I farmed when i get transferred?

Oldtimer209

I think "streamers" are the bane of online gaming. They dont bring anything of use to the game.

Otr

Better with streamers than with bots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnauN2pkDBQ

sciffer2014

Maybe just put some kind of limit on the creator program, such as if you are part of the creator program you're limited to some server. It wouldn't limit someone who's looking to stream casually on another server, but it would also make it an incentive for casual streamer to join those content creator server.

Since co-streaming is likely to be popular and having a public stream feud is more likely to attract viewer then having a public vs private feud, then the creator experience, as well as the community experience, will be enhance by this condition.

The content creator program server are also likely to grow faster, because of leadership, and therefor to be more competitive. Which is also going to be an incentive for some hardcore guild who are looking forward to that kind of environment increasing the overall balance if they play their card right.

Drazard

i also dislike the streamers being so influential but devils advocate here:

Seems kind of silly, do you ban anyone with a twitch account?

how many viewers does a streamer need before they are a ''streamer''

what about youtube content creators?

what happens if your guild decides to make some youtube content? should your GM be banned?

Why are you punishing people that have a bigger friends list than you?

What if a streamer plays ashes off-stream and never streams but they gain a following anyway?

There is so much to unpack when you try to "remove streamers"

Lets say we do remove streamers, now instead of the streamers being your problem, the largest guild is the problem. Are you the largest guild? are you just trying to benefit yourself by removing big streamer guilds?

If you arent the largest guild, you have the same problems except now its "please make a server for zerg guilds" instead of "streamer guilds"

I dont think the anti streamer crowd really understand that removing the streamers is neither a simple or effective solution. and the real problem is youre upset you arent playing with a large group of players.

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