Questing vs Grinding

Would you rather have the bulk of your Exp gained for leveling your character be from quests you complete or just from straight grinding?

I believe all types of content should contribute towards the progression of the Node you play in but at the same time it can get very repetitive simply grinding mobs. Currently there seems to be a big disparity between the Exp gain between just blitz grinding mobs over doing quests. Since we have the Hunting and Gathering quest boards to me I feel like they should carry more weight. The idea behind quests are meant at least "lore" wise to be done to help out your Node/Town. So you should want to actively gather a bunch of quests to contribute to your town.

I'd still want to keep the same pace to lvl 50 as it is now. I wouldn't want questing to be so strong that it makes it too easy to speed run to max level.

So regardless of whether you like to group up and grind or group up and quest, I just want it to be a viable option so you don't feel like you aren't getting anywhere with the amount of time you have to play.

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GreatPhilisopher

60-70% mostly main quest, 10-15% commission board quests extra xp and event (if they do it smart like GW2 where u be doing quests and come across events constantly +assuming u have commissions that are on the way or near) , the left 15-25% can come from artisan or grinding (dungeon mobs that are hard and require actual parties not random open world stacks otherwise there will be no point of quests if grinding a few mobs in a few minutes will still be we faster if killing a few mobs can give xp equivalent of 20 quests in like 1/5 of the time) or doing commissions and events too

Vhaeyne

Noaani wrote: »

I mean, it isn't.

That is like saying mobs are just for leveling and alts.

In the way some people like just killing shit mindlessly, others like running quests.

There are already far more MMORPGs that focus on quest grinding than those that don’t. Seriously, if that’s what you’re after, just play FFXIV or WoW.

Ashes is centered on PvX and the concept of "risk vs. reward." Fighting over mobs and resources is the heart of the game, and this focus sets Ashes apart from its peers.

Any time spent improving the game’s mobs and open-world dungeons aligns with what Ashes is striving to excel at, far more than quests ever could.

Quests should be the lowest priority for Ashes—and they already are in Alpha 1 and 2.

Noaani wrote: »

You say it's wasted time - and to you it may well be. However, to others, mobs that aren't attached to quests are a waste.

An MMO should be building the game for both extremes, knowing that the vast vast majority of people fall in between the two.

Quests as a content type is kind of core to MMORPG's, or RPG's in general. Saying they are a waste of development time because you don't like them is like someone else saying crafting is a waste of developer time because they don't like it.

I’m not going to get baited into a discussion about the definitions of terms like "RPG" or "MMORPG." These are genres, and their definitions are subjective.

I’ll just say this: quests are not necessary for a game to be an RPG. Many early RPGs didn’t even include them. Player-driven content is far superior for a game like Ashes.

sittichai

Im fine with grinding but as I mentioned in another post. As it is now, the game doesnt really seem like its designed for either. Grind spots are scarce, poorly designed (if designed at all) and hard to find. The respawns are awful but Im not sure if its a server issue or just too long of a respawn timer. Hard to actually tell at this point in the development.

Drinuvan

Personally I think questing should be more of a reward (items/special equipment) than about the experience points rewarded at the end.
If you make Questing the main go to for leveling, then its just like Thrones of Liberty and none of the named mobs or special events below max lvl matter anymore.
When I think of questing I remember Everquest, the class Epics and the long road to get an ultimate weapon for your character that benefits not only yourself but your party and guild.
Or the 10 Rings quest , another Everquest quest that was a long quest that involved crafting (jewlery), faction building, mini raids and ultimately a large scale (raid) war to defend the dwarves from the giants. the got the player doing the quest a really nice ring and a lot of unique drops that only come from that triggered event.
Or the quest (also from Everquest) to craft a Key to get access to the Dragon lords at the top of a volcano, which involved raiding, farming, and some luck in fact on collecting all the piece to fashion the key.
Everquest even had quest to craft mid-lvl armor, around lvl 30, max was lvl 50 at the time. Which alot of players did these quests to get this mid-lvl armor.
Questing should be inclusive, either with a small party or group or as a raid. It should not be a means to getting max leveling in my option.

Noaani

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Quests should be the lowest priority for Ashes—and they already are in Alpha 1 and 2.

Yes, because you are objectively wrong here.

You view quests in a very unusual way, seeming to view them as something that is at odds with other parts of the game as opposed to being things that tie the other parts of the game together.

You say that Ashes should be focused on players fighting over mobs and resources rather than quests - you seem to be forgetting that it is quests that see players wanting to fight over those mobs in the first place.

WIthout quests, players just fight any mob. With quests, they need *those* mobs, and will fight for you them.

You can see this happening on the alpha servers all the time, even with bugged spawns.

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