Grief system kills the game

Again we see many people lg because of the insane Grief system that doesn't work.

We had 5 groups log out because people got made and couldn't stand it anymore....its killing the fun.

Grave robbers ...most lvl 25 are having a blast and farming lower levels for easy loot and cash.
In HH all day lvls 25 pull mobs into groups...get them killed and steal the graves. AoC loves this
They also run round and where people die...they quickly steal the loot from corpses....again AoC loves this

why they love it?
Because nothing is done about it.
Robbers. Thieves and people who like to get others killed by drag mobs into them are getting cheered by in the board room at AoC.
AoC must really think about this grief system because this will be the reason people will leave the game.

Its blood boiling stupid.

Stop the drag mobs into others system.
Stop not giving people time to get the stuff back...specially in pvp mode.
Mark people who rob graves of players 10 lvl or lower then their own for Thieves for 48 hours. Dont let them exp...trade in towns or so...punish the thieves.

How many more signals does AoC need to see that what they created in a board room doesn't work.

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Ludullu

oddstero wrote: »

And it's also been said repeatedly that training mobs is not intended and that the aggro mechanics are not functioning as intended by the developers. And ask the players that got sanctioned recently for training mobs if that's what Intrepid means by PVX? It's not, so stop trying to defend you intentionally griefing, and generally just being a jerk, in a test environment with "PVX."

Just to clear things up here, the act itself is not bannable, so it's not griefing in Steven's opinion. It's just that right now it's too easy to pull mobs onto others and THAT's a griefing action, if repeated too many times.

Xeeg

oddstero wrote: »

And it's also been said repeatedly that training mobs is not intended and that the aggro mechanics are not functioning as intended by the developers. And ask the players that got sanctioned recently for training mobs if that's what Intrepid means by PVX? It's not, so stop trying to defend you intentionally griefing, and generally just being a jerk, in a test environment with "PVX."

I never got banned, or any warnings for how i've been playing. I've been using the mobs to defeat other teams so that my team can take the grind spot.

Straight up, the game design my man.

Ludullu

Xeeg wrote: »

Straight up, the game design my man.

Yet another clarification, right now it is NOT in fact the intended design. But yes, training will still not be punishable, simply harder to do after the AI fix.

Dygz

This is an example of why I hate playing with PvP gamers - too many have no sense of ethical sportsmanship.
It's just anything that is possible is fair game.
Training mobs is not intended to be a go-to strategy for PvP. Just because you won't be banned for it does not mean you should be doing that on any kind of regular basis.
Just because you can do it; doesn't mean you should do it.

SmileGurney

Volgaris wrote: »

Game needs a Reputation System.

The game lags behind some of its systems, such reputation system or forced surname for all your characters, so unless you have an alt game account, its harder to hide your reputation.

-10 social score Intrepid

Volgaris

It's concerning they haven't fixed the mob training yet.

Songcaller

You don't want mobs to be trained? How will the ai learn without training?

nanfoodle

This does need to be addressed. If the game is toxic it will in the end drive away the nice gamers that have standards.

Fugs

compunerdy wrote: »

This is not even real PVP.. its PVP using PVE. I also really hope this is not the vision. If nothing else, just make it so deaths from PVE do not make lootable corpses. This would help with a lot of the current issues until a better system is made.

Seconded.

Volgaris

Songcaller wrote: »

You don't want mobs to be trained? How will the ai learn without training?

choo choo!

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