No EU server for phase 3...

And it's a no go from europe here...
Bit sad to know about it only now because I took days off for it.

Sad stuff, I was very happy to be able to play the launch. Good luck america

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Ludullu

HighCanFly wrote: »

Bit sad to know about it only now because I took days off for it.

Well, there's your problem. Never trust an Intrepid date. No matter what they say.

But yes, this is beyond shitty. Announcing this just before release FUCKING AGAIN is insane.

Aszkalon

* concerned in European *

Sir Steven doesn't hate us - does he ?

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Laetitian

How much of a difference does it make for Alpha gameplay?

Depraved

Ludullu wrote: »

HighCanFly wrote: »

Bit sad to know about it only now because I took days off for it.

Well, there's your problem. Never trust an Intrepid date. No matter what they say.

But yes, this is beyond shitty. Announcing this just before release FUCKING AGAIN is insane.

i remember them saying about a month ago or longer that there will only be one server for everybody and they might open one in europe..MIGHT.

Ludullu

Laetitian wrote: »

How much of a difference does it make for Alpha gameplay?

I wish I played on the EU server during P1, just to have a comparison point. I've seen too many people complan that ping does affect them negatively though.

Depraved

HighCanFly wrote: »

And it's a no go from europe here...
Bit sad to know about it only now because I took days off for it.

Sad stuff, I was very happy to be able to play the launch. Good luck america

you should play though. the more people from europe, the sooner you will get your EU server. If people from europe start thinking like you and not playing waiting for the EU server, then the EU server wont happen

asady

Well we are doomed PVP Is unplayable enemy teleport or you see like mirror image And you can't aa with mele. Mobs atack you from 10 yard away spells Feels like 0,5 sec delay. 110 ping Its just sad.

Caww

HighCanFly wrote: »

....Good luck america

thank you, we need all the luck in the world right now....

Depraved

well, you got your server now

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Chicago

asady wrote: »

Well we are doomed PVP Is unplayable enemy teleport or you see like mirror image And you can't aa with mele. Mobs atack you from 10 yard away spells Feels like 0,5 sec delay. 110 ping Its just sad.

110 ping is only 0.1s delay, also I don't see any Australians complaining

thunderfury2024

WoW beta servers are also only available in the US and are playable. A second server is probably not worth it, as there are too few players.

Ludullu

It's a balance of things. A ton of EU players refuse to play on US servers, so overall you get fewer people. So having 2 servers might get more people into the testing.

nanfoodle

I get it but you have also get the EU servers are not getting player support.

Aszkalon

Depraved wrote: »

you should play though. the more people from europe, the sooner you will get your EU server.

Ohhh i HOPE you are right

i am already shrugging my Shoulder left and right and think only -> "welp!!" Okay then i might get f°°°°ed over by Lag - i will test the Anvils and new Contents around the Riverlands anyway however - after now Eight to Ten Months of waiting.

Depraved wrote: »

If people from europe start thinking like you and not playing waiting for the EU server, then the EU server wont happen

Sounds like You are addressing Entitlement - but what if those People meant do not even know that A.) a EU-Server might happen -> and B.) don't know it will increase the likelihood of it happening by swarming an US-American Server ?

Depraved wrote: »

well, you got your server now

Hoooh ?

Is an EU-Server now coming to Town after all ?

Or do You still mean to swarm the US-Server no matter what ?

because this can be arranged.

Mepps

There will now be both a US and EU server for the start of Phase III. From Steven:

Happy Saturday Glorious Testers,

As an update, we will be starting P3 off with two 24/7 realms, Shol (US East) and Lotharia (EU West). We will monitor queue times and server populations to determine if more are necessary and keep you informed through our normal communication channels. During the first few weeks of P3 start, we expect to conduct significant testing with the dynamic gridding systems in order to further harden the technology. This may result in scheduled tests where populations from both servers are asked to assist by creating characters on the opposite realms, as well as further scheduled testing in the PTR environment. With the very large update that P3 brings to Ashes, the team will be reacting quickly to issues that may be discovered in the first few weeks of P3. Please make sure to report any bugs, exploits or bad behavior so our team can identify and respond.

Updates regarding advanced download times will be given on Monday morning Pacific time.

Your help with the PTR testing over the past few months for P3 has been instrumental in addressing issues before they have a chance to reach the live testing environment. ❤️

See you Tuesday!

Laetitian

On the one hand I think it shouldn't be necessary to give in to all community complaints like this. I feel like if the devs chose to prioritise dynamic gridding testing, they should have been free to encourage EU players to play on US first or wait for a few more weeks.

But on the other hand, I know that EU servers are often announced and then neglected, which becomes a self-exacerbating feedback loop where worse support leads to fewer users, leading to worse funding and worse support. So I'm glad it ended up meaning that Intrepid will continue to grow its experience in managing multiple servers and start to think about optimal solutions for the long term.

SmileGurney

Chicago wrote: »

asady wrote: »

Well we are doomed PVP Is unplayable enemy teleport or you see like mirror image And you can't aa with mele. Mobs atack you from 10 yard away spells Feels like 0,5 sec delay. 110 ping Its just sad.

110 ping is only 0.1s delay, also I don't see any Australians complaining

This becomes a "bit" more complex in pvp, if multiple players have high latency. Any interactions between clients with high ping are questionable. I have seen this in P2. I would hear a snipe being fired, I would do a dodge, and would see the snipe flying a second later after my dodge completed. Pretty scuffed if you ask me.

Also latency issues are just part of the problem. The main problem is the time zone differences. Unlike some mature games like Eve Online you cannot easily set time windows for sieges and similar events. You barely get the benefits of the larger population also, no wonder sweats on the official Discord kept accusing each other of "dodging pvp". When the opposition was simply sleeping or working at the time.

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