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Which class name instead of "TANK" ?

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  • SmaashleySmaashley Member, Alpha Two
    In my mind, tank is a role and not a class. A Bard with lots of defense can be as a tank role...
  • TexasTexas Member, Alpha Two
    Smaashley wrote: »
    In my mind, tank is a role and not a class. A Bard with lots of defense can be as a tank role...

    To that end, Clerics and Fighters have been some of the best tanks in old DnD rulesets.
  • VaknarVaknar Member, Staff
    Changing my answer to "Spank" 🛡👋
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  • SmaashleySmaashley Member, Alpha Two
    Texas wrote: »
    Smaashley wrote: »
    In my mind, tank is a role and not a class. A Bard with lots of defense can be as a tank role...

    To that end, Clerics and Fighters have been some of the best tanks in old DnD rulesets.

    Exactly, tank is a role that every class can be depending on their setting. That's why I think "Tank" shouldn't be an archetype in AoC because that would deviate from their freedom of class choosing. If you pick a tank, you are gonna tank.

    I hope it won't be like that but who knows :)
  • arkileoarkileo Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    For me the name tank is an anachronism. A tank is literally a modern machine of war, named after a liquid tank by the British in order to conceal what it really was during WW1. I can't shake that. For the in-universe name for this type of warrior to be "tank" is perplexing when you put yourself in a Verran's shoes. It's unimmersive.

    There are loads of better options. Vanguard, Guardian, Knight, Reiter, Chevalier, Shield, Defender, Protector, all of these convey what they do.
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    edited July 16
    Myosotys wrote: »
    CRUSADER


    I could imagine a " Fighter " with Second/SubClass " Cleric " - to be a " Crusader ".
    Highsword sounds cool and okay,
    but Crusader sounds WAY cooler. ;) . :sunglasses:
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  • Mag7spyMag7spy Member, Alpha Two
    arkileo wrote: »
    For me the name tank is an anachronism. A tank is literally a modern machine of war, named after a liquid tank by the British in order to conceal what it really was during WW1. I can't shake that. For the in-universe name for this type of warrior to be "tank" is perplexing when you put yourself in a Verran's shoes. It's unimmersive.

    There are loads of better options. Vanguard, Guardian, Knight, Reiter, Chevalier, Shield, Defender, Protector, all of these convey what they do.

    These all sound like class names someone is attached to and trying to be fancy and not an archetype meant to be basic and readable for people.
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  • TexasTexas Member, Alpha Two
    Erm...Cleric, and a ranger that's not even a ranger but more like an archer.
  • EndowedEndowed Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Battlemaster.
  • XephXeph Member
    That's why those are Archetype and not class.
    The only other name I can think of is Sentinel. And event then, its already taken by the Tank/Ranger class.
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  • DolyemDolyem Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
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  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    Why Cleric + Ranger = Protector?
  • SaabynatorSaabynator Member
    I like Tank, its to the point. Allready one named Fighter. The name Tank, describes exactly what the guy is. When you hear the name, your not in doubt at all. If you named him Champion, it might be a whole other thing.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    arkileo wrote: »
    For me the name tank is an anachronism. A tank is literally a modern machine of war, named after a liquid tank by the British in order to conceal what it really was during WW1. I can't shake that. For the in-universe name for this type of warrior to be "tank" is perplexing when you put yourself in a Verran's shoes. It's unimmersive.

    There are loads of better options. Vanguard, Guardian, Knight, Reiter, Chevalier, Shield, Defender, Protector, all of these convey what they do.

    Consider the class name list to be simply a mechanism to communicate to players, rather than some specific thing in the game.

    If you do this, you will quickly realise that since players will call this class "tank" anyway, the name not only makes sense, but no other name makes any sense.
  • DimitraeosDimitraeos Member
    Guardian or Protector
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  • arkileoarkileo Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    Consider the class name list to be simply a mechanism to communicate to players, rather than some specific thing in the game.

    Is this factual though? Or will I talk to the first NPC and they'll say "Greeting young tank!"

    And I'll look at them like: 03mb1oweze39.jpg




  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    arkileo wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    Consider the class name list to be simply a mechanism to communicate to players, rather than some specific thing in the game.

    Is this factual though? Or will I talk to the first NPC and they'll say "Greeting young tank!"
    Well, if you see any in game dialouge calling people tanks, how about we start this conversation up again then?

    To me, as long as this isn't happening, there is no issue.
  • VhaeyneVhaeyne Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    It's been so many years of these tank name threads that I would be disappointed if the name changed. The name is like an iconic part of AOC to me now.
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  • MyosotysMyosotys Member
    I suggest :

    Cistern or Master Cistern
    Container
    Receptacle
    Basin
    Panzer
  • arkileoarkileo Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Myosotys wrote: »
    I suggest :

    Cistern or Master Cistern
    Container
    Receptacle
    Basin
    Panzer

    Maybe Armored Fighting Vehicle? :D
  • ReLamasReLamas Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited July 17
    I think it's great to explore different names that evoke strength and prestige for the tank class. Names like Champion, Hero, and War Chief bring a sense of valor and leadership, which can resonate well with players who embody the role of protecting their allies on the battlefield.

    The additional suggestions like Crusader, Royal Guard, Enforcer, Guardian, Knight, Warlord, Protector, Defender, Vanguard, and "SENTINEL" also carry strong connotations of resilience and guardianship, reflecting the role of the tank in absorbing damage and leading the charge.

    Ultimately, the name should not only sound appealing but also resonate with the essence of the class's role in gameplay.
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  • Ayeveegaming1Ayeveegaming1 Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Reading through the comments, there are a couple good takes IMO. Perhaps we should change the thinking a bit. Let's evolve the conversation to instead of having the class "tank" it should be a role, as stated a couple times above. However, within this we do have to name the "tank" something. Would it be acceptable to break it down to race? Maybe each race could have racial names for each class. A racial name for healer, dps, and tank. The trinity. I understand that the classes have names when you combine for augmentation, but that is class, not race. So lets have some racial names for tanks. Example: Ren'Kai (tank) - Valient or Dünir (tank) - Stoutskin. So on and so on.
    (side note: Using the idea as "tank" for a role, instead of a class, in raid groups the "tank" should have the ability to be selected for any char in the raid settings, not auto selected like wow does. Maybe there could be a toggle for autoselect...hrmm)
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  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    Myosotys wrote: »
    Which class name instead of "TANK" ?

    FRANK.







    (heheheheheheh x'D)

    No, honestly. I understand why " Dolyem " seems to be slightly and mildly annoyed with this topic. :mrgreen:
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  • RipteyeRipteye Member, Alpha Two
    Why do people have issues with Tank as a class? Seems odd to me.
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
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  • SolmyrSolmyr Member
    edited July 18
    Ripteye wrote: »
    Why do people have issues with Tank as a class? Seems odd to me.
    It's the only archetype that's named after its role. Fighter isn't called DPS, Cleric isn't called Healer, and Bard isn't called Support. Every other archetype gets some cool/thematic monicker that adds a bit of flavor, while the tank is literally just Tank.
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  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    Myosotys wrote: »
    I am currently thinking about few options to make the class more sexy... TANK sounds too ridiculous !

    I am suggesting :

    CHAMPION
    HERO
    (WAR)CHIEF

    Edit with suggestions from posters :

    CRUSADER
    ROYAL GUARD
    ENFORCER
    GUARDIAN
    KNIGHT
    WARLORD
    PROTECTOR
    DEFENDER
    VANGUARD


    ROYAL GUARD feels like the advanced class of the more basic (generic) Guardian
    DEFENDER doesn't feel a class name but could become if the NPCs refer to it in the lore.

    Low level characters, before having a secondary archetype, should have an in-game profession to which the quest givers, NPCs and lore can refer too. "Tank" cannot be used in story dialogues.

    The same way would be a bad choice to sell capes or banners with the words "Ashes of Creation" or "Intrepid Studio" on them. Or letting Alchemists create Red Bull potions.
  • TyranthraxusTyranthraxus Member, Alpha Two
    Tank is fine.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Well, we made it over a year with this topic buried deep in the High Fells where no light could reach.

    No one will care after level 25, it’s the class name (i.e. archetype combo) that counts.
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