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Alpha Two Phase III testing has begun! During this phase, our realms will be open every day, and we'll only have downtime for updates and maintenance. We'll keep everyone up-to-date about downtimes in Discord.
If you have Alpha Two, you can download the game launcher here, and we encourage you to join us on our Official Discord Server for the most up to date testing news.
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Re: More Lawless Areas? or Just Flag/War/Red PK ?
If they want lawless to be in the ocean only, make water fighting better , cant swim up/down while attacking>
And I also said to put near bis items or highly wanted mounts , but not the BIS items. That way guilds cant gatekeep endgame items like people are saying above.
But I do think, high end tames etc. should be in lawless, just not BIS gear.
And I do understand they are working on the Red system, but even with that system I still feel we will want some lawless inland areas to freely kill people and contest spawns.
Just don't force casuals to that area/zone to get gear... But if they want that shiny 180% mount , they gotta go contest for it or buy it from that guild holding the spawn.
I don't want to wait to talk about it either, why? This game is suppose to be player made/driven right? so that means HIGH amount of PVP will happen ALL OVER. to do just that, CONTROL.
And currently devs are HIGHLY favoring zergs , which sucks...
So IMO
PVP is one of the most important parts of the entire game , even if you don't pvp yourself..... So avoiding talking about the issues now isn't a way to fix/rework them later. Even if they are balancing the red system, we can still talk about it now and show the devs that people are or are not interested in lawless etc. and how they feel about it.
Devs want talk, feedback etc...
But the problem with this is that Intrepid wants to treat this game as something other than a themepark.
It's fine when Themepark PvP games have 'the shiny stuff' and 'the nearly BiS stuff' in areas you have to fight over.
But at that point, why would we even need this game? This type of PvP nullifies almost everything that makes Ashes uniquely interesting. If you have permanent lawless zones with rewarding content and minimal economic drag, it's just a BDO-tier PvP fairytale but with functionally Tab-Target combat and much too little good instanced PvE.
Not even the games that Ashes pulls a lot of its inspiration from ever combined these things successfully, so the feedback they will get from people who experienced the broken attempts will always be 'no this doesn't work'.
But in the case of specific aspects of the gameplay, it's fair to say that too, even to people who have entirely valid reasons for wanting that play experience.
No one's saying that you shouldn't be able to 'have fun and contest spots'. That's what lots of us absolutely want from this game. It's just that Lawless Zones are not the 'recommended' path to that.
Azherae
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Re: Lawless Areas Should Exist
While my positivity is definitely waning I'd definitely care about the Fisherfolk Conclave, cause if they can do that, then my zelous religion can definitely start its own warI don't know if there are a lot of people still following this game with a positive mindset that would really care if the Joeva Fisherfolk Conclave could spawn a whole 'Community Goal', but I choose to believe that Steven still really cares.
Ludullu
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Re: Fresh Eu server on may 1st?
They didn't mention the EU side of things.
There is only one. The Eye of Shol shall shine upon us all!
Re: TTK Changes Have Shifted PvP Away From Skill — And It Shows
Sounds to me like you were outplayed by players able to use their kit better than you can, both in 1v1 and in group pvp. Good group composition is as important if not more than individual skill expression, as it involves applying the knowledge about the game to coordinate group pvp which is more complex than 1v1 combat.Lesser-skilled players who can now simply outlast and overwhelm.
Group compositions over individual skill expression.[/b]
Re: Gear rebalance and TTK gone slightly too far
Big health pools are only useful if you have big mana pools on your healers to keep the HP ones full. So we need to either increase mana costs on heals, or, even better, add more mana-based gameplay into the game.
Drain a healer and now the party's HP pools are not bottomless. And that's not even counting all the CCs and assist targeting that's always available.
Drain a healer and now the party's HP pools are not bottomless. And that's not even counting all the CCs and assist targeting that's always available.
Ludullu
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Re: More Lawless Areas? or Just Flag/War/Red PK ?
We should give zergs EVEN MORE OF AN ADVANTAGEAnd currently devs are HIGHLY favoring zergs , which sucks...
So IMO
Funniest shit I've ever seen. Guild wars that can be properly controlled and balanced? Nah. Node wars that can limit the impact of any given guild that outside of them? Nah. The corruption system that would directly limit the zerg's ability to remove absolutely everyone from a location? Nah.
Lawless zoooones thouuuugh! Literally the tool of abuse for any zerg to fully control and exploit to their hearts' content. Now thaaaat's the good shit
Ludullu
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Re: The Problem With Ashes of Creation Biomes and More
Seeing the Jundark immediately made me rethink the idea that every tree should be able to be cut down. It really limits deign in an extreme way.
If you compare Ash’s jungle to any of the Zones in GW2’s heart of thorns, it’s ludicrously less cool and explorable.
If you compare Ash’s jungle to any of the Zones in GW2’s heart of thorns, it’s ludicrously less cool and explorable.
RonDog98
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Re: Is 150GB SSD Insufficient?
Even if 150 GB were enough today, the nature of an MMORPG means it wouldn't be enough for very long.
Noaani
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Dynamic PvP Zones, Node Territories, Caravans... I will tell u about all that AOC needs
STEEVEEEEN!!!!! I’d like to sketch out a few ideas that will make our game a hundred times better.
1) Node Territory Size Based on Node Level
I suggest making the territory controlled by a node and its laws dynamic. This way, a level 0 node (which is not even a village) won't control huge areas. Controlled territory should grow with the node's level, through special buildings, or by conquering land from other nodes. Now, you might say, there will be meaningless neutral zones between nodes. But I say — not neutral, but lawless. In these lawless areas, PvE players could have an increased chance of finding rare resources (PvE players would love this), while PvP players would benefit from PvE players entering these areas (PvP players would be happy too). In the end, everyone wins — your game becomes not just good, but outstanding, your player base grows, and so does your revenue.
Steven, I know you’re a good guy — please make it happen!
2) Have you ever thought that killing is wrong?
Of course you have. Remember when you realized it? Oh right, when after killing a player, you got hit with the Corruption debuff. After all, the great laws of the nodes don't allow killing players without consequences.
But what if I told you that you've been lied to all this time? The laws are not against killing — they are hypocritical. After all, you can freely kill any player during a caravan event. Feel the hypocrisy our beloved developers have brought into the world of Verra? I do too!
Here’s what I propose: remove the unnecessary caravan event system altogether. Let any player freely attack caravans, but if a player deals a certain amount of damage to a caravan, they should receive Corruption just like when killing another player. This way, the laws would truly apply across all systems, but players could still attack caravans thanks to point 1.
3) The Corruption Effect Should Not Work in Lawless Zones
Once you enter a lawless area, the Corruption system should deactivate and then reactivate when you leave. I think this is just logical — no one would even argue with this.
4) Rework the Corruption Debuff
Seriously, the Corruption system needs to be more forgiving toward players. What's the point of creating an open-world PvP system if people are too scared to engage with it? Right now, there are almost no rewards that justify a player willingly getting corrupted. Think of something — anything — but remove item loss on death due to Corruption. Without this change, the first three ideas simply won't work properly.
1) Node Territory Size Based on Node Level
I suggest making the territory controlled by a node and its laws dynamic. This way, a level 0 node (which is not even a village) won't control huge areas. Controlled territory should grow with the node's level, through special buildings, or by conquering land from other nodes. Now, you might say, there will be meaningless neutral zones between nodes. But I say — not neutral, but lawless. In these lawless areas, PvE players could have an increased chance of finding rare resources (PvE players would love this), while PvP players would benefit from PvE players entering these areas (PvP players would be happy too). In the end, everyone wins — your game becomes not just good, but outstanding, your player base grows, and so does your revenue.
Steven, I know you’re a good guy — please make it happen!
2) Have you ever thought that killing is wrong?
Of course you have. Remember when you realized it? Oh right, when after killing a player, you got hit with the Corruption debuff. After all, the great laws of the nodes don't allow killing players without consequences.
But what if I told you that you've been lied to all this time? The laws are not against killing — they are hypocritical. After all, you can freely kill any player during a caravan event. Feel the hypocrisy our beloved developers have brought into the world of Verra? I do too!
Here’s what I propose: remove the unnecessary caravan event system altogether. Let any player freely attack caravans, but if a player deals a certain amount of damage to a caravan, they should receive Corruption just like when killing another player. This way, the laws would truly apply across all systems, but players could still attack caravans thanks to point 1.
3) The Corruption Effect Should Not Work in Lawless Zones
Once you enter a lawless area, the Corruption system should deactivate and then reactivate when you leave. I think this is just logical — no one would even argue with this.
4) Rework the Corruption Debuff
Seriously, the Corruption system needs to be more forgiving toward players. What's the point of creating an open-world PvP system if people are too scared to engage with it? Right now, there are almost no rewards that justify a player willingly getting corrupted. Think of something — anything — but remove item loss on death due to Corruption. Without this change, the first three ideas simply won't work properly.
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