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Elder Soul wrote: »

Do you think that there are not 17k potential users as clients who are against the sale of cosmetics and micropayments?

...my interpretation is to use the funds that were already had to achieve the base of the proposed game in a robust way...
..finance the development of new content by way of expansions (in this case with the money generated by attracting more customers by not incorporating micropayments and a store).

In the case of projecting the need to increase billing, generate donation packages of moderate value without offering exclusive items and compensating contributors with thanks, perhaps a personalized courtesy email and a segment in the forums for their mention.
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Is there 17k users against cosmetics. Sure, I would prefer that cosmetics were not offered. However, it is available it's not gonna change. I'll just use them. Being against it does does not remove the customer. The clearly overwhelming success of cosmetics across many games indicates that having a cosmetic shop is far more profitable than not.

Your interpretation of using funds would be nice from our point of view but does not seem necessary to run a game and IS will choose what they think is most beneficial.

Under the current model, we do not pay for expansions.

As far as the exclusive items does, this game will be heavily involved in exclusive items that are gone after a time. Both in game and out.

None of this really matters. It is all a matter of preference for billing. Your initial ideas of other payment systems seem interesting; however, in the end IS will probably choose the option that is most likely to provide the highest returns. While Steven wants to make a great game, I am sure that he also wants a good return.

Arguing directly against the cash shop by trying to project it as a low return is unlikely to work. Whenever many companies copy one another, you can be sure that there is a lot of profit involved. That is what has happened with the cosmetic shop.

Garbage. Temporary benefits? Okay then, PvErs should lose their PvE gear and enchantments at the end of each month also. They have kill bosses they've already killed, over and over to maintain PvE benefits.

Now see how stupid that it?

I am very against this idea, what if the summoner/bard in your family is offline? What if YOU are the summoner / bard in your family, now you can't be summoned. What if none of your friend group wants to be a summoner / bard? Why even start a family with your buddies if it gives you no advantages? It just sort of breaks the entire family system for no reason.

I've heard testimonials that people have learnt a foreign language from MMOs. I can see why some wouldn't want to do this but others are very appreciative.

You realize NO mmo has a fully playable game just three years into development right?

Nagash wrote: »

Sorry but your solution seems outrageous you are basically putting a cash shop behind a paywall

^ This.

Not sure if @Elder Soul is trolling or just like to make scatter-gun arguments. Either way I believe the cosmetics in the cash shop is more of a privilege for further supporting the game allowing people to show off exclusive content because they were there during the sale of the item and was in the position to get it. Having additional 'premium membership' fees to get access to all cosmetics would be horrible.

I dont know about others but I personally dont want a large amount of the player base running around with the same cosmetics. The ability to buy an exclusive skin for a premium is a privilege and a 'thank you' for further support towards the game at different stages throughout development and a subtle 'nod' or acknowledgement.

If you want all the skins save up

vhbenin wrote: »

I agree with giving it do bard summoner classes.

Keep in mind @CaptnChuck that we can make this hability be usable by classes that have these classes as secondary.

But i agree it gives purpose to the class! It fits. It's a gameplay and social element.

But there are 64 classes in the game. Only 28 of them would be able to summon families. This means that if 8 of my friends choose to play any of the remaining 36 classes, then we won't be able to summon each other. So no, I disagree with this.

I could get behind this. I like the idea of classes having specific functions beyond just combat scenarios.

@Crowley

Wait my bad, you can only be in one family. I removed my comment to avoid confusion. I thought you could summon guild members, but apparently not.

Now to actually respond to your post, I still don't like it. If none of my 7 friends want to play a bard or summoner, then we won't be able to summon each other. So I prefer it to be available for all classes.

I'd much rather take a 15 min dual cd instead.

I'm not excited by such a feature to be honest. I would feel pressured to play my class a certain way, or be pressured to quest in a region of the world where the elemental damage I want to specialize in is optimal.