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If we approach this from a general design perspective, jump quests have a primary purpose:
To train the population's jump skills to a higher level - so it can be used as a mechanic elsewhere in the game.

If certain bosses are going to have abilities that challenge our jumping skills - I'm all for jump quests. (And I like this idea)

If jump quests exist in and of themselves, I agree with Wandering Mist that they are way clunky in 3D 3rd person games. (Whereas jump quests work really well in Maplestory not just because it's a 2D platformer, but also because there are inertial systems in place, which adds a whole layer of technical skill to jumping - somewhat similar to super mario's inertia system. I LOVE INERTIA.)

There's got to be others out there, but the only game I've personally seen this work in was SWTOR.

To use SWG by comparison, it was often the case that your character could (and often would, as yours truly learned by looking at other players' screenshots of my player-events) show up in a slightly different physical location than what your own game was reporting you at - even if just by a couple of feet. To remedy this, whenever hosting guild meetings, I'd usually run into a wall for 5 seconds straight, then walk to where I would be standing - producing a MUCH more universally-reported position, for my character.

Yours truly doesn't mind jumping puzzles, though. As frustrating as they can be, it *feels* like an accomplishment, having gotten to the end!

No login rewards please. Even if it is towards cosmetic items, the "cool" factor of the items are lessened because the items may be acquired by doing simple mundane tasks like logging in. It tarnishes the intrisic value of the cosmetic item even if there is a cash shop for cosmetics. If people are paying a subscription for the game, they will most likely login actively and enjoy what they paid for.

The system would also punish people that are unable to login on a given day.

Just a brief summary from the Discord conversation.

Why?

Because "I am a Tank" is not a sentence that a character in a fantasy setting would utter. The class names should use terminology that befits the world the characters live in. It's okay to use Tank when talking about class roles, since those are meta conversations happening outside of the game world, but using them for class/archetype roles breaks the 4th wall and the immersion said 4th wall is meant to hold. It's also not consistent with other archetypes, a Cleric is a Cleric, not a "Healer" (and even then, a "Healer" would be a more fitting term than "Tank").

Bikeshedding

There is probably a dozen names that could be used here, some are taken by one of the 64 classes in the class chart, but there are still good names that befit the archetype that are free, like "Defender" or "Champion".

So a bikeshedding about the name will inevitably follow this discussion, and I think it's important to note that the community's inability to agree on what the term should be does not make the argument what the term should not be void.

I've witnessed a lot of bikeshedding arguments, with many hours poured into what the right choice should be and why. Ultimately picking a new name here that does not have the same problems that "Tank" has, will stop the bikeshed. Players don't have strong opinions about renaming "Cleric" to "Priest", and they won't have strong opinions about renaming "Defender" to "Guardian", or "Champon", or any other fitting term, as long as the chosen term is, indeed, fitting. "Tank" is not such a term.

[Edit] Other discussions where it comes up (and when):

Reddit 6 days ago
Reddit November 2020
Forums September 2020
Forums September 2020 (different thread)
Forums August 2020
Forums July 2020 (loose fit)
Forums August 2018
Forums August 2017
Reddit May 2017

Im British its in my blood to tax people

I guess you could label it as an 'overly dramatic' response if you'd like. I just support Intrepid's stance on the matter. Numerous threads have been created for this silly topic and everyone says the same thing. How long will people beat a dead horse?

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So I thought it would be fun to speculate on which divine gateway each of the races would enter Verra during A1.
Now I am merely going off the bits of lore and the info Steven has given out. I am only basing this off of the divine gateway being situated near one of the major races fallen cities of old.

-Aela Human-
They were the largest of Verra's races their empire bordered most of the other races and they were sailors.
The Vaelune are desert dwellers and the Kaelar are Imperialistic.

-Kaivec Orc
They were tribal and warriors in the old world
The Ren'kai are warriors who believe in taking what is theirs. The Vek are more pacifist and astrologers.

-Dunzenkell Dwarf
They were master artisans and mainly kept to themselves in their mountains.
The Dunir is the traditional mountain dwarves. The Nikua are coastal.

-Pyrian Elf
They were forest dwellers, mages and the second-largest empire next to the humans.
The Py'rai are guardians of the forests and believe in preserving nature. Empyreans are militaristic and powerful mages, more civilized.

The one that I am 100% about are the Aela humans. I just kept thinking if they were a civilization of millions of people, the largest race and they were feared before the fall they would need vast amounts of fertile land to feed all those people. Not to mention access to many ports for trade and military maneuvering.

Don't blast me in the comments, this was just a fun thing to do.

let me know what you all think and where you would predict the spawn will be.

I really don't care either way. Glad Intrepid is sticking to their guns though and not letting the mob dictate every aspect of the game.

I don't care at this point