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Also doesnt help that 90% of the gear added to the game with the desert is all caster/mage gear and the remaining 10% mainly tank items still waiting for anything ranger related :P kinda hoping there be a few decent pieces when rogue come around cause they probaly have similiar guild items

Shadow Phoenix wrote: »

A couple of thoughts to add (and a quick caveat):

I'll preface by saying that I'm aware that quite a few things are still missing from ALL the classes based on the roadmap, which I expect will change the play style a bit. I'm also aware that the archetypes will change how some of them feel and that we can't really say how that will affect things, so all this feedback should be with that as standard.

A big problem, and @Veeshan just mentioned it also, is that most of the gameplay is just auto-attack. You can't weave attacks between AA, or you'll break the chain, so you just have to sit there and watch your toon just go through the AA motion. This is the same for all classes, which currently makes this feel very like a MOBILE game almost (to me at least). To add to this, a lot of the abilities that ranger currently has, don't really add to the class, or damage much more than AA does.

Rangers are definetly pushed towards a more AA role with the passive bow mastery.
I think they need to lean into the AA weaving playstyle more with rangers as their thing, mages tend to use spells back to back rangers hav e to use AA chains to get the most of there kit.
Some skills in ranger kit shouldnt interrupt the AA combo for example disengage imo should be one that doesnt interupt it (tbh i would have AA continue being fired while disengaging tbh) since it doesnt give you any dodging bonus and u cant attack while doing it using the skill in a fight is typicaly a bad idea due to you taking dmg and enemy not taking dmg and this would help here. Thundering shot tbh should be another one and maybe headshot.

Ammo types should give bonuses to AA aswell say weighted arrows could make AA have 10% faster attack speed, Barbed is 5% armor penetration on AA and concussion could be 5% bonus dmg dmg with auto attack skills.

So if i were the devs i wouldand wanted to lean the class into more AA orinated roll with skill weaving in they should do a couple things.
1 - Make bow mastery passive apply to all spell/skills and adjust CD to accomodate this
2 - Make ammo types provide a bonus on ranged weapon finishers (maybe melee aswell with secondaries)
3- Give some skills for rangers some skills they can use that wont interrupt AA chain (like the disengage above suggestion)

4 - Consider giving ranger a slight range boost over other classes for class fantasy/class role especialy in pvp i feel 40m(shortbow)-45m(longbow) would work well here (wands/books for secondary roles maybe too). like fighters effectivly has 4 gapclosers so and mages have range and blink so they all still have ways to get to a ranger easily but it does mean they need to trade a skill to close the gap so i think the range bonus will be perfectly fine

Edit: another skill that could work well with rangers is a quick shot skill that fire an arrow quickly and grants a slight movement speed boost 20% for like 5 seconds or something (could have a passive that applies the movement to party members potentialy as an option)

A couple of thoughts to add (and a quick caveat):

I'll preface by saying that I'm aware that quite a few things are still missing from ALL the classes based on the roadmap, which I expect will change the play style a bit. I'm also aware that the archetypes will change how some of them feel and that we can't really say how that will affect things, so all this feedback should be with that as standard.

A big problem, and @Veeshan just mentioned it also, is that most of the gameplay is just auto-attack. You can't weave attacks between AA, or you'll break the chain, so you just have to sit there and watch your toon just go through the AA motion. This is the same for all classes, which currently makes this feel very like a MOBILE game almost (to me at least). To add to this, a lot of the abilities that ranger currently has, don't really add to the class, or damage much more than AA does.