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Re: XP punishment
I'm generally for a death penalty, teaches you to play smart and not throw bodies at a problem.
For PvE, I think it's fine just to lose maybe a hour or two of progress, maybe some crafting materials, but nothing overly punitive. Sometimes you just fall to your death.
PvP, you need consequences. And scaling up until you lose your shirt, sounds like the right idea.
For PvE, I think it's fine just to lose maybe a hour or two of progress, maybe some crafting materials, but nothing overly punitive. Sometimes you just fall to your death.
PvP, you need consequences. And scaling up until you lose your shirt, sounds like the right idea.
Yoh
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Re: will this game ever launch
to be fair i am fine with an 8-10 year development schedule, i know its on the long end but its more than fine, my issue is what seems to still be yet to developed after 8 years that concerns me, it doesn't even feel like we are half way
The majority of what complaining about being missing, is content. Of course you haven't seen it, you don't do that at this stage in development. That would be putting the cart before the horse.
Imagine if it was building a car, you wouldn't do the paint job before frame to put it on. If you do things out of order, all you end up with is supped up sport car with no engine to pull it.
At this point in development, it's about hammering down the features, and making sure everything works. Without the features, you don't have a game. Fortunately, most of the core features are built, and just need to be put through it's paces and refined. Which we will be doing during alpha 2.
Once that is done, content will come next, and you'll be shocked at how quickly. Because frankly, content is easy, features are hard.
Yoh
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Re: Guilds and ships: how they relate? So many questions
The simplest solution is what I saw in DarkFall, ships are item in your inventory which can be summoned into the world and are then controlable by anyone who engages the stearing wheel. The controler can then unsommon it back to inventory. Their is no ownership other then possession and a ship summoned into the world is always at risk of being stolen.
I do not think this is what we see in AoC though, likely something more like a Deed that we have for Freeholds will regulate ship ownership. So I their is likely to be no direct interaction between the guild system and the ownership of ships.
I do not think this is what we see in AoC though, likely something more like a Deed that we have for Freeholds will regulate ship ownership. So I their is likely to be no direct interaction between the guild system and the ownership of ships.
Lodrig
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Re: Which archetype will you play?
AirborneBerserker wrote: »AirborneBerserker wrote: »Saintphoenix wrote: »We still don't have all the base classes and none of sub classes. Just on my play style and my Desire to delve deep into the Bard, I will be going Bard/Bard when we get the sub classes. I played a Minstrel in DAoC so it also seems fitting lol
Probably best to get used to the phrasing this game uses, class is the combination of archetypes, so base archetype plus secondary archetype = class
Yeah, no. Classes are classes. If some game tries to use a different definition of class then they can kick rocks. And no one else should use that language either for the simple reason that people will hear 64 classes and think there are 64 classes only to find out there 8 classes each with 8 subclasses. How do you think people are going to respond to that. Do you think they're going to be excited about a game that lead with lying to them? Or maybe there going to be on the edge of quitting and the first sign of hardship or unfairness will quit the game leave a one star review and never play the game again.
I too feel like 64 classes are a lot. But I also feel like you speculating with no particular information at hand.
I am pretty sure Steven has said that the sub class will change the main class a lot. And if its enough change to be considered new class is yet to be seen. But if we go from what we do know - The summoner class will have different summons depending on the sub class. You will get Beasts, Undead, some sub classes will have only 1 strong pet active at a time, others will have 2-3 weaker.
So if we go from this information maybe we will get 64 true classes
From the Wiki Classes Page, Class section in class augments sub-section.
the link: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes
"The intent behind the augment system is not to provide new active abilities. They're intended to augment existing active abilities that are provided through your primary archetype; and so your secondary archetype selection completes your class selection, of which there's 64 types and you get augment skills that can apply certain attributes and mechanics to your existing active skills." -Steven Sharif
"When you reach the class phase, which is around level 25 and you introduce that secondary archetype selection to create your one of 64 classes, then you'll have a number of augments that you'll be able to apply on a per-ability basis; and your core ability kit comes from your primary archetype selection; and those augments will change the look and feel of those abilities; and some will have the affect to create more darker thematic aspects to it. Or just generally different aesthetics to the abilities that represent the secondary [archetype] selection." -Steven Sharif
TL;DR No new skills, some augments which will change the aesthetics of some abilities. They will look different, that's it. That is not a different class, that is a sub-class.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Summoner
Summoners summon different varieties of summons, depending on the class and augments they choose.[20][21]
Animals.[21]
Spirits.[21][22]
Skeletons, zombies and other undead summons will be possible with death-based cleric augments.[15][22]
Corpses (potentially).[21]
Some summoners may summon multiple things.[21]
Other summoners may only summon one powerful thing.[21]
Certain summoners may only be able to summon effects and/or temporary energies.[21]
Augments from a secondary archetype can be applied to a summon.[23]
This doesnt sound like just a look difference.
Githal
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Re: Developer API's for guild maintenance
Since this is Steven's game, I would guess that he gets to choose to have API's or not.
I get that the last decade or so people have just been trained to use API's and 3rd party tools to succeed.
Steven thinks that a game shouldn't need those to be enjoyable. Let's give him a chance to show us.
I get that the last decade or so people have just been trained to use API's and 3rd party tools to succeed.
Steven thinks that a game shouldn't need those to be enjoyable. Let's give him a chance to show us.
Re: Character customization
Alpha 2 players are still supposed to get access to the character creator before the alpha release. (Or so the faceless staffer on Facebook keeps telling me, thankyou.)
... ... ... do we have any new Information about this yet ?
Anyone having an Idea when exactly the Character Creator Feature is supposed to come ? It was announced like February to March ago, wasn't it ?
Imagine the best " thing " You have regarding the waiting Time for Ashes of Creation, is to know absolutely nothing about it. Or you either become like Narc, or become an outright Doomsayer. I mean,
it WAS mentioned one or a few times - and then no One ever spoke any Word again about it. As if it would be an unspoken Law to keep quiet about it forever.
I am almost shocked dear Intrepid didn't treat the Alpha Two the same. Okay enough Sarcasm.
Technically that Feature can impossibly be as "huge" as the Alpha Two Start in general. Yet for the Alpha Two we have a Date, while for the Character Creator Feature - well ... ... ...
@Aszkalon
It got mentioned in the AMA. We've all been bamboozled by the constant motion on the moving train of development
The character creator for now is staying baked into the game and won't be separated. So you'll be able to use it to make your character when you get Access to A2 and not before. (Unless you're in a spot test.)
Until then everyone gets to dream about who they want to be.
Hinotori
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Re: Developer API's for guild maintenance
I’m very aware of how an API works, but your request for players to have outside access is unreasonable. Ashes needs to be played entirely within the game, and allowing guilds extended API access is also just, a bad flavor.
Keep manual logs if you really want to keep track of player counts and detailed raid completion, but the game shouldn’t be feeding info to you in a way that can be automated.
Keep manual logs if you really want to keep track of player counts and detailed raid completion, but the game shouldn’t be feeding info to you in a way that can be automated.
Caeryl
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Re: Linux Support For Alpha2 (and possibly launch)
The ONLY time I fire up Windows is when I am gaming. I use Linux for everything else. If I could get the 'new' games to run on Linux (with the performance of running on Windows) then I would kick Windows to the curb once and for all. Would absolutely LOVE to see AoC run natively on Linux but I doubt it'll ever happen and that's a shame.
I agree - the thing is, you need to be saying this on the Linux developer forums, not here.
It isn't gaming companies that are just not supporting Linux, Linux is not supporting the gaming industry. There is more to this discussion than performance or how much work it takes, in regards to any game with a competitive element there is the integrety of the game itself at stake - and that is something Linux developers have simply put no effort in to providing.
If you can mostly prevent people cheating on one platform, but a platform that you are likely to see less than 2% of your users use offers no means at all to prevent even the most basic of cheats (and in fact provides users with ways to obfuscate their actions), then why would you release a competitive game on that second platform at all?
It is Linux developers that need to stand up here and do what is needed, not game developers.
Noaani
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Re: Investing In Intrepid Studios
If you are talking about the game being publicly traded on an exchange for dividend paying stock and investors being able to influence the game direction, then no. Intrepid is a private company, the owner of record is/was a successful businessman in MLM, then later real estate, so the need to capitalize through a public offering has not been indicated. The whole point of this exercise was to NOT make a game that was beholden to the bottom line. Look at EA or Tesla is you want to see the problems companies have with "vision" once they allow the unwashed masses to have a say in the companies direction. Publicly traded companies have a legal obligation to make as much money as possible for their investors, and can be sued when they don't do what as seen as doing their best to achieve that goal. Intrepid, if it stays true to its founding ideals will make buckets of money for Steven and anyone else that has a piece of the pie, but allowing others to stick their two cents in every quarter to yell "Take the game f2p, cause microtransaction p2w makes more money, look at EA's publicly released numbers!" would be the beginning of the end for this company.