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Re: Amazing world, painfully dull grind
It will not, cause, since he left, Steven has already said "yeah, we'll have some grind".Uncommon Sense wrote: »I hope Bard's legacy holds true...
I don't really see how they even CAN get the "~225h to max lvl" design w/o grind. That would be an insane amount of questing, if you tried making that path non-grindable. And both mob and artisanry leveling is just grind.
Ludullu
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Re: This is why fighting with 2 shield is cool and should be in the game.
I actually just watched this last night! Loved the animation style.
Re: Wait!! dull Grind, vertical Power Scaling and RNG Gear Enchanting?? WTF
As someone who has played a game with the same castle design - Noaani is right, people will definitely leave if they lose the castle or anything remotely as valuable as that.These should not be that GAME CHANGING so if you lose it you will feel that you are set behind that much. But in the same time they should be rewarding. And if there are several such systems, even if you lose 1 you own, there is good chance that you are already working on getting different one, which will keep you engaged in the game
They lose not because of "omg, I lost and I dunno what to do", but because the loss usually means that the enemy gets to progress even further, so the gap between your powers widens. And if you already lost once to your enemy - there's now an even higher chance of losing again.
Different people have different mental thresholds for this stuff, but I've seen countless people leave the game even on their first loss.
Well i have seen players leave games for such reasons too. But AOC is filled with risks and rewards. You can lose the materials you gathered by someone killing you or destroying your caravan. Can lose a fight for a Boss. Can get exp debt when you die. Your node can become Vasal node to other that develops faster - meaning your progression is capped and you "Lost" the Node progression competition.
Even if your node gets to metropolis, it can be destroyed and you lose a lot by this.
What i want to say it is that players with the mentality to leave when they lose something wont play AOC at all.
And also those who stay, would most likely love the competitive nature of the game.
Githal
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[EU/UK] Dawn Forge | Crafting | Casual/Semi-hardcore
Dawn Forge is an active, casual/semi-hardcore PvX EU/UK guild dedicated to the artisan professions while also enjoying PvX content with a focus more on PvE.
We cater to a range of players from casual to semi-hardcore and will never set minimum playtime requirements for our members. Everyone has a life outside of Ashes and that must always come first.
During the course of this Alpha we have built a strong community of amazing people that put the guild first. Our members help and encourage each other, work together to find solutions, stick together through hard times, and above all else, have a great time together.
We are now opening our doors further for like-minded individuals that want to find a home where they can become the great artisans they want to be. Dawn Forge always strives to help each other progress and continue to foster a community where our members enjoy playing games together.
What we offer
Who we're looking for
Important information
An interview will be required to join Dawn Forge. If you are successful, you will enter a probationary period.
As Dawn Forge is a branch of Blue Dawn, you will be joining a larger community of members and mercenaries that have a stronger focus on more PvE and PvP content. If artisanship (gathering, processing, crafting) is not your focus, or you want to do more PvP content, you can choose to stay in the main Blue Dawn guild.
Want to get to know us first? Simply join the Blue Dawn discord and get to know your future guildies!
Blue Dawn: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/42232/eu-uk-blue-dawn-pvx-semi-hardcore-casual
Blue Dawn Discord: https://discord.gg/4zM6FuFNYZ
We cater to a range of players from casual to semi-hardcore and will never set minimum playtime requirements for our members. Everyone has a life outside of Ashes and that must always come first.
During the course of this Alpha we have built a strong community of amazing people that put the guild first. Our members help and encourage each other, work together to find solutions, stick together through hard times, and above all else, have a great time together.
We are now opening our doors further for like-minded individuals that want to find a home where they can become the great artisans they want to be. Dawn Forge always strives to help each other progress and continue to foster a community where our members enjoy playing games together.
What we offer
- A friendly mature community to play together
- Collaboration and teamwork to progress your artisan professions
- Guild systems to provide a smoother experience in artisanship
- Plenty of laughs along the way
Who we're looking for
- Players who are dedicated to the artisan professions
- Respectful individuals committed to a positive community
- Team players who can collaborate for the greater good of the guild
Important information
An interview will be required to join Dawn Forge. If you are successful, you will enter a probationary period.
As Dawn Forge is a branch of Blue Dawn, you will be joining a larger community of members and mercenaries that have a stronger focus on more PvE and PvP content. If artisanship (gathering, processing, crafting) is not your focus, or you want to do more PvP content, you can choose to stay in the main Blue Dawn guild.
Want to get to know us first? Simply join the Blue Dawn discord and get to know your future guildies!
Blue Dawn: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/42232/eu-uk-blue-dawn-pvx-semi-hardcore-casual
Blue Dawn Discord: https://discord.gg/4zM6FuFNYZ
Re: Steven, Please Rethink “Not for Everyone”
Nope, I want it to go slower, but directed at the proper parts of the game. Instead they're working on shit like FTUI and gear balancing.Saabynator wrote: »Sound like a lot of you alpha testers are wanting this to move along way quicker than it is. To me, it looks like an unrealistic look at what speed a game of this size is developing at. Step away, take a break for some months and come back. Your annoyance and bitterness will only grow from here.
I sure hope they somehow magically developed a ton of stuff behind the scenes and there's simply 1-2 systems that are holding it all back (i.e. dynamic gridding), but for now I'm real doubtful about that being the case.
Also, I've already stepped back from the game. I had big plans for it for July, but none of those worked out because game's performance became even worse on my ancient PC and now, with yet another PTR delay, my motivation to be deeply involved became even weaker. I'll still help test big things, but I won't really have the time for much else.
None of that will stop me from voicing my opninions on the game's design direction here, on reddit or discord, because I can give that feedback even w/o directly experiencing it. Well, at least for the non-combat kinda stuff.
Ofcource you should keep expressing yourself
There team is quite big now. Stuff like gear balance have to get done eventually, and there is a team for developing that kind of stuff. I think there is going to be a decent bump in alpha 3, featurewise I mean.
Im a huge believer in the game. But I also buy into more than just a game. A indie dev, who makes a whole company from the ground up, with the exact mindset that I have on MMOs. Im sold on that idea. I have played a ton of MMOs since they came out. All the way from beta testing UO. It was so cool and creative back in the day, but like everything making money, shareholders take over. Money becomes the prime and all devouring factor. This is a chance to turn that stuff on its head. If Intrepid succeed, then they would have changes the genre, in a meaningful way. So I think there is more riding on this project, than just the game itself. We need Stevens in the game genre. In more than just MMOs to be honest, but its a good place to start
Re: Steven, Please Rethink “Not for Everyone”
I'm honestly sad that this is what we always end up at. I really continue to hope that Intrepid, at least, can understand that these reactions aren't about negativity, because at least for me, nothing could be further from the truth.
It's 'easy' to just keep patting them on the back and downplaying/downcrying other MMOs as if they only halfassed the implementations. It comes from ignorance though, and I'm honestly quite scared sometimes that Intrepid is gonna end up huffing the same development copium as many other failed projects did.
Ignorance of the scope of other games is not basis for dismissing this concern.
I'll continue to hope, to provide my data and counterpoints, and to do whatever I can to help them realize the dreams that they have as developers.
I hope that you can move past the tribalism that leads to dismissing the idea that weather and seasons are a 2002 thing and that people who point out facts are bitter.
It's 'easy' to just keep patting them on the back and downplaying/downcrying other MMOs as if they only halfassed the implementations. It comes from ignorance though, and I'm honestly quite scared sometimes that Intrepid is gonna end up huffing the same development copium as many other failed projects did.
Ignorance of the scope of other games is not basis for dismissing this concern.
I'll continue to hope, to provide my data and counterpoints, and to do whatever I can to help them realize the dreams that they have as developers.
I hope that you can move past the tribalism that leads to dismissing the idea that weather and seasons are a 2002 thing and that people who point out facts are bitter.
Azherae
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Re: [EU] Nephilim [PVX] [18+] [Semi Hardcore] [Competitive] [Close Knit Community] [P3 Recruitment!]
Dont think twice, vote Azrial for mayor
Re: Steven, Please Rethink “Not for Everyone”
Nope, I want it to go slower, but directed at the proper parts of the game. Instead they're working on shit like FTUI and gear balancing.Saabynator wrote: »Sound like a lot of you alpha testers are wanting this to move along way quicker than it is. To me, it looks like an unrealistic look at what speed a game of this size is developing at. Step away, take a break for some months and come back. Your annoyance and bitterness will only grow from here.
I sure hope they somehow magically developed a ton of stuff behind the scenes and there's simply 1-2 systems that are holding it all back (i.e. dynamic gridding), but for now I'm real doubtful about that being the case.
Also, I've already stepped back from the game. I had big plans for it for July, but none of those worked out because game's performance became even worse on my ancient PC and now, with yet another PTR delay, my motivation to be deeply involved became even weaker. I'll still help test big things, but I won't really have the time for much else.
None of that will stop me from voicing my opninions on the game's design direction here, on reddit or discord, because I can give that feedback even w/o directly experiencing it. Well, at least for the non-combat kinda stuff.
Ludullu
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Basic fixes suggestion
Only just got the game a few hours ago, level 5. Already annoyed with a few things that seem like the bare bones basics.
I'm new to this somewhat old community so don't think im trying to speak negatively about the game. I'm only adding my two-cents as a long time MMO player. Years in Lineage2, WoW, Black Desert, New World.
The game looks ripe for a launch in a year or so I just hope they iron out what the community is pointing out. I altogether decided to skip crafting/gathering as it seems it's not really working well enough to get into yet.
- Escape should be the default hotkey for Main Menu, and should close various windows in succession like Map, Inventory, etc.
- The looting of monsters is oddly terdious, as well as targeting. After they die, I have to reclick and get closer to them spamming F to pickup, extremely annoying.
- The Map makes things choppy and requires to be open and closed a few times to get it to load without making everything choppy. This isn't hardware or internet on my end.
- /sit works sometimes, but other times, a lot of times, it just doesn't.
- There is no default list tab of general skills, like sitting, walking, dancing, emotes, and no macro abilities to make your own.
- Quest markers and highlighted quest monsters should be much easier to see.
- Specific Vendors in town areas should be much easier to see, as well as see what they sell.
I'm new to this somewhat old community so don't think im trying to speak negatively about the game. I'm only adding my two-cents as a long time MMO player. Years in Lineage2, WoW, Black Desert, New World.
The game looks ripe for a launch in a year or so I just hope they iron out what the community is pointing out. I altogether decided to skip crafting/gathering as it seems it's not really working well enough to get into yet.
Re: Basic fixes suggestion
No, this game is nowhere near a year out from launch. Hence the issues you mentioned and couuuuuntless others.
You should also /bug in the game for each of your issues.
You should also /bug in the game for each of your issues.
Ludullu
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