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Archage, Blackdesert, and WoW player here, Will this game be for me?

I have played WoW since 2004, was my first real MMO. In all honesty the PvP while leveling in WoW in early 2004 was the most amazing gaming experience in my life. Any MMO I play I am looking to rekindle that experience. I became a raider in order to become more powerful in PvP, but that lost it's luster. Still play WoW off and on, but is always kinda just something to do to fight off being board.


Archage was a game I absolutely loved, the packs system was like an amazing way to lead people in to meaningful PvP. The issue with that game was it came down to how you turned your Labor in to gold, and gold was god for gear, and gear was the most important element of pvp. As it became clear that there were just too many ways to turn real cash in to labor and gold.. The P2W label i was not willing to admit to became all to clear. so I sold my account.

Blackdesert was that super hot girl I lusted after, played on the Korean servers for a time. Pre purchased... then just lost interest. I do not have the time to grind the way that game requires for someone to be competitive. After i stopped playing the P2W aspects that were in the Korean game seemed to come to the US.


I don't mind tab targeting, I also enjoyed the action combat of BD. As long as combat is responsive I am fine with it.

Some other things I enjoyed, In AA i kinda liked the land and farming aspects of the game, Didn't think I would be in to that crap, but I did like it. I like Arena in WoW, it is not as exciting as the random nature of world pvp, but I enjoy competition and it forces you to become a better player if you continue with it. Rated BG's in WoW, random BG's. Playing Auction houses and becoming very rich. I played WoW for free and turned most my gold in to Overwatch box's.

Comments

  • I feel like they are taking the best systems from different games and eliminating their downsides. Upgrading/revamping those systems and putting it in Ashes. ArcheAge's whole trade run mechanic is one of them. You used to run packs and earn money or pirate packs and earn money and have some PvP. In Ashes there are caravans. You transport materials for greater good (money or crafting) and PvP may/will happen around those caravans with no PKing punishments. You don't have labor limiting you, you don't have pirates going to jail stuff limiting the competitiveness. Caravan system is just better version of trade runs in AA imo.

    If you check LazyPeon's QA with Steven you can also see that gear is not going to be the main decider of the winning side in PvP.

    About BDO and WoW, i can't comment on it since i haven't played either of them :D
  • To answer the question you posed honestly, its way too early to tell. If someone replies to you in absolutes about any aspect of the game you should treat it with extreme caution. Personally I always use gameplay footage as my gauge as over the last 10 years I’ve read almost every hope/promise a dev team can make. Often I got the feeling they were all genuinely true, I feel that way with AoC as well but reality of the final product is often a big deviation from the “want” of developers in alpha an pre alpha phases.

    Now this is a cynical view, however I assumed from your question you weren’t really looking for a feel good answer. It’s a new MMORPG with a lot of hype and the forums and web are filled with optimism, and well they should be. We simply don’t have enough data yet, the real issue for you I suppose is the fact that tangible answers likely won’t come until BETA, when people can actually test the game mechanics.

    That’s a long way away, until then enjoy the ride, the devs are saying all the right things anyway. Fingers crossed.
  • I would have to yes this is the game is for you, Steven the head lead of the dev team was a big Archeage player and I'm sure they are going to avoid the problems that that drove players away from AA. We unlock expended Navel content on the kick starter and there will be over seas caravan system so Piracy will be a thing in this game. Ashes will have elements from all three games you mentioned.
  • I did watch it, it really seems like it is hitting the sweet spots of everything I am looking for in a game, but I am also waiting for the hat to drop and for something to happen that will disappoint me.

    I can't bring myself to play any mmo's from Asia, they have a different culture and P2W is just not a care there, it seems welcomed. Also I don't want free to play because that just leads to P2W and i want to ensure I am playing a game that is properly supported and developed.
  • [quote quote=19982]I did watch it, it really seems like it is hitting the sweet spots of everything I am looking for in a game, but I am also waiting for the hat to drop and for something to happen that will disappoint me.

    I can’t bring myself to play any mmo’s from Asia, they have a different culture and P2W is just not a care there, it seems welcomed. Also I don’t want free to play because that just leads to P2W and i want to ensure I am playing a game that is properly supported and developed.

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    Steven hates P2W, he has strong feelings about that , AOC will have a sub and cosmetics only cash shop.
  • [quote quote=19979]To answer the question you posed honestly, its way too early to tell. If someone replies to you in absolutes about any aspect of the game you should treat it with extreme caution. Personally I always use gameplay footage as my gauge as over the last 10 years I’ve read almost every hope/promise a dev team can make. Often I got the feeling they were all genuinely true, I feel that way with AoC as well but reality of the final product is often a big deviation from the “want” if developers in alpha an pre alpha phases.

    Now this is a cynical view, however I assumed from your question you weren’t really looking for a feel good answer. It’s a new MMORPG with a lot of hype and the forums and web are filled with optimism, and well they should be. We simply don’t have enough data yet, the real issue for you I suppose is the fact that tangible answers likely won’t come until BETA, when people can actually test the game mechanics.

    That’s a long way away, until then enjoy the ride, the devs are saying all the right things anyway. Fingers crossed.

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    Yea man, we have the same mindset here.
  • Fellow AA player here: this thing seems like the real deal so far.

    I will be interested to see exactly how the pvp works, specifically around trading goods and will be comparing it to AA (out of habit, not intentionally). Being able to "pirate" an enemy tradeship is one of the things I love most about AA (not that I do it all that often, I just love that it's an option in the game). If the pvp around that is relatively unrestricted in AoC, then I think this game will be the cat's ass.

    Had sooooo many good times running boats full of packs with guilds/friends: planning when to do it, prepping all the packs, coordinating the loading, sailing out to Freedich and hopefully turning in without too many losses. Not to mention doing that with a big ol fleet of boats too!
  • As for Archeage
    Im going to agree with AeonAuron in that yea they are taking whats good from AA and making it way WAY better. Then getting rid of pay to win crap and focusing pvp on meaningful pvp and adding a system that might actually stop griefers from purpleing every newb they can find.
  • Just wait until there is a game out to play. You will have a better idea then.
  • [quote quote=20124]Just wait until there is a game out to play. You will have a better idea then.

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    Yea, I have not played MMO's tat long, but as an older dude of 45 I am very skeptical. I am tempted to throw some kick starter money their way. Kinda like playing a lottery ticket hoping for a new MMO I can stick with.
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