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Alpha Access prices already skyrocketed

Just a friendly advice at Intrepid Studios.

The fact, that you´re only selling access to the "later" Alpha phases by Kickstarter, created a market for the special pre-Alphas.

On a well known account selling page, an alpha access, that was given away during your key giveaways/livestreams, was sold for 2,500 US-$. Was that in any way intended?

Maybe you shouldn´t give away your special Alpha access keys like that o.0

Comments

  • Did this really happen? I don't get why someone would pay that much for a pre-alpha when the 500$ pledge give you access to early apha stage and tons of other rewards xD
  • Whomever bought it... But why though? >v<
    Whomever sold it... Man, (s)he sure got rich quick lol. >v<
  • The Keys to the alpha they giveaway takes place before the first kickstarter alpha. ETA q4 2017. But 2500$ ? Hell no. Somebody must be desperate for a mmorpg
  • <blockquote>The fact, that you´re only selling access to the “later” Alpha phases by Kickstarter, created a market for the special pre-Alphas.</blockquote>

    More like people willing to pay stupid prices for something created the market.
  • <blockquote><div class="d4p-bbp-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/alpha-access-prices-already-skyrocketed/#post-21423">Empacher wrote:</a></div>The Keys to the alpha they giveaway takes place before the first kickstarter alpha. ETA q4 2017. But 2500$ ? Hell no. Somebody must be desperate for a mmorpg
    </blockquote>

    Not that yet.
    The earlier you get in Alpha (Q4/2017/, the earlier you see the source code/engine/gameplay etc.
    As a hack/cheat/bot tool developer you need that early access.
    I guess it was a guy of that kind who bought it.

    I think prices will decrease, but Alpha keys reach high prices many times.
    Remember that GW2 Alpha/Beta Access for 1k?
    Or the Hearthstone Beta Accounts for 2k?

    The more the hype, the more tha money.
    Looks like Intrepid did a good job on this.

    The guy who sold it can now be a leader of men including lifetime account for his best friends/family.
    Congrats!
  • <blockquote>The Keys to the alpha they giveaway takes place before the first kickstarter alpha. ETA q4 2017. But 2500$ ? Hell no. Somebody must be desperate for a mmorpg
    </blockquote>

    Not that yet.
    The earlier you get in Alpha (Q4/2017/, the earlier you see the source code/engine/gameplay etc.
    As a hack/cheat/bot tool developer you need that early access.
    I guess it was a guy of that kind who bought it.

    I think prices will decrease, but Alpha keys reach high prices many times.
    Remember that GW2 Alpha/Beta Access for 1k?
    Or the first Hearthstone Beta Accounts for 2k?
    Diablo III Friends & Family Alpha 3k anyone?

    The more the hype, the more tha money.
    Looks like Intrepid did a good job on this.

    The guy who sold it can now be a leader of men including lifetime account for his best friends/family.
    Congrats!
  • And once upon a time, studios were the ones who used to actually pay people to play their games pre-alpha...
  • <blockquote>Did this really happen? I don’t get why someone would pay that much for a pre-alpha when the 500$ pledge give you access to early apha stage and tons of other rewards xD
    </blockquote>

    Alpha access sold at Kickstarter starts Q4/2018
    Alpha access given awav at streams/site starts Q4/2017

    That´s one year(!) before any Kickstarter.
    Enough of time to reverse engineer, collect information etc.

    <blockquote>
    The guy who sold it can now be a leader of men including lifetime account for his best friends/family.
    Congrats!
    </blockquote>

    To be honest, it´s hard to resist to sell the Alpha access to a game in development for a greater audience.
    I thought that prices could get high, but THAT high.

    <blockquote>
    The earlier you get in Alpha (Q4/2017/, the earlier you see the source code/engine/gameplay etc.
    As a hack/cheat/bot tool developer you need that early access.
    I guess it was a guy of that kind who bought it.
    </blockquote>

    It´s sad but true.
    It´s a one time investion of 2.5k bucks, if the guy is good in reverse engineering and selling a solid bot/hack/tool after release, he will get ten times (or more) his investment back. Same happened in BDO and ArcheAge before, but there you could get the client in advance for free (Korean Version)
  • <blockquote>
    Did this really happen? I don’t get why someone would pay that much for a pre-alpha when the 500$ pledge give you access to early apha stage and tons of other rewards xD
    </blockquote>

    Alpha access sold at Kickstarter starts Q4/2018
    Alpha access given awav at streams/site starts Q4/2017

    That´s one year(!) before any Kickstarter.
    Enough of time to reverse engineer, collect information etc.

    <blockquote>
    The guy who sold it can now be a leader of men including lifetime account for his best friends/family.
    Congrats!
    </blockquote>

    To be honest, it´s hard to resist to sell the Alpha access to a game in development for a greater audience.
    I thought that prices could get high, but THAT high.

    <blockquote>
    The earlier you get in Alpha (Q4/2017/, the earlier you see the source code/engine/gameplay etc.
    As a hack/cheat/bot tool developer you need that early access.
    I guess it was a guy of that kind who bought it.
    </blockquote>

    It´s sad but true.
    It´s a one time investion of 2.5k bucks, if the guy is good in reverse engineering and selling a solid bot/hack/tool after release, he will get ten times (or more) his investment back. Same happened in BDO and ArcheAge before, but there you could get the client in advance for free (Korean Version)
  • WTH, why? He/She could've bought the $2500 pack from kickstarter, still get alpha access from earliest Q1 2018.. I mean that's a few months after the Friends and Family + Invite Only Alpha. And on top of that he/she would've gotten lifetime sub and a bunch of rewards. Though it could've been one of the 10k backers, who knows.
  • Also isn't that key only for a one time test? As in you don't get into the later ones?
  • <blockquote><div class="d4p-bbp-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/alpha-access-prices-already-skyrocketed/#post-21531">TheCouchNerd wrote:</a></div>WTH, why? He/She could’ve bought the $2500 pack from kickstarter, still get alpha access from earliest Q1 2018..
    </blockquote>

    No, that´s not the earliest. AFAIK Kickstarter rewards including Alpha access start in Q4/2018, that´s a year after the Pre-Alpha starts.
  • <blockquote>Also isn’t that key only for a one time test? As in you don’t get into the later ones?
    </blockquote>

    If i understood Steven correctly, the Alpha access given away at streams/drawings is for all the time until release. Then you have to buy a sub.
  • <blockquote><div class="d4p-bbp-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/alpha-access-prices-already-skyrocketed/#post-21540">Snakeeyez wrote:</a></div><blockquote>Also isn’t that key only for a one time test? As in you don’t get into the later ones?

    </blockquote>
    If i understood Steven correctly, the Alpha access given away at streams/drawings is for all the time until release. Then you have to buy a sub.

    </blockquote>

    Ooo if that is true I hope I can give away my alpha access from the kickstarter. I already have alpha access won from twitch so it'd be a waste to redeem both.
  • <blockquote><div class="d4p-bbp-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/alpha-access-prices-already-skyrocketed/#post-21540">Snakeeyez wrote:</a></div><blockquote>Also isn’t that key only for a one time test? As in you don’t get into the later ones?

    </blockquote>
    If i understood Steven correctly, the Alpha access given away at streams/drawings is for all the time until release. Then you have to buy a sub.

    </blockquote>

    If that is true then I hope I can give away my kickstarter alpha key since I already have a key I won from the twitch stream.
  • <blockquote><div class="d4p-bbp-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/alpha-access-prices-already-skyrocketed/#post-21540">Snakeeyez wrote:</a></div><blockquote>Also isn’t that key only for a one time test? As in you don’t get into the later ones?

    </blockquote>
    If i understood Steven correctly, the Alpha access given away at streams/drawings is for all the time until release. Then you have to buy a sub.

    </blockquote>

    If that's true then I hope I can give away my kickstarter alpha key, really don't need two keys.
  • <blockquote><div class="d4p-bbp-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/alpha-access-prices-already-skyrocketed/#post-21515">Snakeeyez wrote:</a></div>Alpha access sold at Kickstarter starts Q4/2018
    Alpha access given awav at streams/site starts Q4/2017</blockquote>
    Q4 2018 is the *worst case scenario* for KS Alpha.
    Just sayin.
  • <blockquote><div class="d4p-bbp-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/alpha-access-prices-already-skyrocketed/#post-21515">Snakeeyez wrote:</a></div>Alpha access sold at Kickstarter starts Q4/2018</blockquote>

    Q4 2018 is the "worst case scenario" for the schedule on this.
    Just sayin
  • [quote quote=21540]<blockquote>Also isn’t that key only for a one time test? As in you don’t get into the later ones?

    </blockquote>
    If i understood Steven correctly, the Alpha access given away at streams/drawings is for all the time until release. Then you have to buy a sub.

    [/quote]

    Yep, that´s what i got, too.
    So actually you can say Ashes is giving away thousands of dollars each week ^^
  • To clarify the keys that we get in the weekly drawing (and the raffle for that matter) is for a seperated alpha that happens before the first public one, it will be under NDA and invite only. Those keys will only be available for that alpha phase, the persistent alpha will only be accessible through backing.
    You can read that in the discord I think it's even pinned to the Ashes_discussion channel, Steven told us that himself.

    I doubt anywone bought it for 2.5k simple because it would be a thing between two people and noone else will know about it. Noone will go around and tell people he bought the key.
  • lol. If someone wants to spend 2500$ on a key, let them. Won't effect us in any way.
  • Ah so they are separate, good to know I'll hold onto both of my keys then.
  • Poor guy and honestly who cares? If someone wants t sell their key or buy the key for that matter? I think people should worry about their own money and not the money of others.

    [quote quote=21672]To clarify the keys that we get in the weekly drawing (and the raffle for that matter) is for a seperated alpha that happens before the first public one, it will be under NDA and invite only. Those keys will only be available for that alpha phase, the persistent alpha will only be accessible through backing.
    You can read that in the discord I think it’s even pinned to the Ashes_discussion channel, Steven told us that himself.

    I doubt anywone bought it for 2.5k simple because it would be a thing between two people and noone else will know about it. Noone will go around and tell people he bought the key.

    [/quote]
  • Hey there, just clarifying a few things in this thread:

    Firstly, the Friends and Family (NDA) test at the end of this year is chosen at random one week, handpicked the other. There are precautions to make sure it's not a spammed account. These keys, are already added to your account.

    As for the keys for Kickstarter Alpha in 2018, the Early Bird specials started at $400, for the first come, first serve basis and when those sold out, increased in price more and more. Same items at the $500 one.

    As for the "key selling sites", trust me when I say that I'm aware of those sites and it's usually fake. The way to drive up a price on something or sell something on those sites, as I have seen in the past, is to make a fake account, make a fake sell and add fake comments saying that it was successful and that it sold. Don't put too much trust in these types of things, guys.
  • [quote quote=21702]Hey there, just clarifying a few things in this thread:

    Firstly, the Friends and Family (NDA) test at the end of this year is chosen at random one week, handpicked the other. There are precautions to make sure it’s not a spammed account. These keys, are already added to your account.

    As for the keys for Kickstarter Alpha in 2018, the Early Bird specials started at $400, for the first come, first serve basis and when those sold out, increased in price more and more. Same items at the $500 one.

    As for the “key selling sites”, trust me when I say that I’m aware of those sites and it’s usually fake. The way to drive up a price on something or sell something on those sites, as I have seen in the past, is to make a fake account, make a fake sell and add fake comments saying that it was successful and that it sold. Don’t put too much trust in these types of things, guys.

    [/quote]Want to sell your pre-alpha key? =cP
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