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Phoenix Guard - EU, PvP-focused, Hardcore.

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edited June 2017 in European Guilds

[This post is a double post, the forums bugged for me]

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https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/#/discussion/28558/phoenix-guard-eu-hardcore-pvp-focused

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    ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited June 2017
    Brothers, sisters, welcome to the Phoenix Guard.

    We are a EU-based, PvX, PvP-focused, Hardcore mercenary Guild. Founded by both myself, and @Noxion.

    We're mostly situated in Europe, but don't let that stop you, if you're from outside of Europe, but happy to deal with the ping; we're happy to take you into our ranks.

    We've got two branches within the Phoenix Guard.

    The core. Our core will consist of our fundamental members; you will be our PvPers, our committed, our loyal, our active members. You will be the forefront of our pride, our sword that strikes, and our backbone of our community. This is not for the faint of heart, we want people who care about their gear, we want people who are willing to kick some ass. We want people who strive to be the best that they can be, and who want to exceed their own boundaries, while knowing their limitations. To join this branch, we would like to know a bit about you, your experience in other Guilds, as well as your experience in other MMOs, preferably games where you played a PvP role, we'd love to hear your stories. Those who are the seekers of glory, those who want to make a name for themselves, those who want to be known for their heroics during that daring defence, or the ones rushing through those walls as they came crashing down; this is your branch. This is your opportunity. This is your Guild.

    Our secondary branch, is what we call the Artisan branch. Though not our core, you will be respected for what you bring to the table. This branch is for the dedicated craftsmen, the laid back, the PvEers. Your style is up to you, all we need from you, is your loyalty. Know that your crafts will contribute to the continuation, and the progression of the Phoenix Guard. Blacksmiths, your crafts will be valued, as they are tried and tested by our ranks. Lumberjacks, your skills will be needed for the construction of our homes, our holds, and perhaps to assist your fellow craftsmen in their trade. Traders, you will be fundamental in ensuring that we can assist our allies, in any way that we can. But these are just a small handful of trades within AoC, know that you will all be valued, and respected members of the Phoenix Guard.

    In either branch, our ideal member would be at least 18 years old, and mature. We make exceptions for younger players, if their maturity is deemed acceptable.

    So, our goals:

    Short-term, we are going to be offering a multitude of services to other Guilds, and alliances. We will be conducting the following:
    The defending, or sacking of caravans.
    Providing defense, or the besieging of towns, cities, or metropolises.
    We will be defending mines, or, we'll be wiping them out.
    We also provide personal escorts, for individual people, or groups. 

    The general idea is that we have a unique contract system in place within our Guild. An outside Guild will be able to come to us, tell us what they need, and we will charge them for it. The people on that contract, get a slice of the pay. This gives you, as a member of our Guild, the unique position of choosing your battleground. If you feel like taking it chill, and decide to escort another Guild's caravan to safety, or if you feel like letting all Hell break loose, and want to participate in a siege; you can check out our available, ongoing contracts, and choose.

    Of course, if we need extra hands to ensure the success of a contract, we will call upon people to participate, and you will be expected to join.

    Long-term;

    We are open to Alliances with other Guilds, and would like to either hold a city, or metropolis of our own, as a leading political party. With this, we will turn the city/metropolis into a militaristic node. But, we are not tyrants; we will tax our citizens fairly, for it is the citizens, who make the node what it is. For what is a metropolis, if it's empty?

    If this is not obtainable, for whatever reason, or if the situation is more favourable: Our Plan B will be to provide an exclusive security service to a particular city, or metropolis. In return for our unwavering support, and loyalty, we will expect to be given space for our members to grow. This includes, but is not limited to; land within the node (such as mansions), as well as freeholds. As well as an income from the guild holding the node, to ensure that our members are paid fairly.

    If you have any questions, please contact either myself, or @Noxion here, on this thread.
    Or you may even come and contact us on our Discord: https://discord.gg/hU3HuBP
    You're free to type, or talk to any of us, at your leisure.

    A side note to other Guilds checking this out:

    As mentioned above; we're open to alliances. We don't want to get involved in massive alliances, and keeping our diplomatic links as few as possible, as is the nature of our services, I'm sure you can understand.

    We're happy to open talks with any Guild, regardless of your stance, and I'm sure we can work something out.

    If you're interested, please visit our Discord (linked above), and contact either myself, or @Nox#9325 (@Noxion on the forum).

    We, here at the Phoenix Guard hope that you've enjoyed reading through our recruitment post, and please do not hesitate to contact us.

    If you feel that you're on the fence, don't fret. We have a forum being constructed right now, that we'll add to this post in a little bit. There, we will elaborate further on all the points listed above, and will also give you your personal space to contact us there, as well, if need be.

    Thank you,
    From both, myself, and @Noxion. Co-founders of the Phoenix Guard.

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    Yes, feel free to come and hang out on our Discord and have a chat with us ! :D
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    Question about how your system works. What would happen when two clients that rival each other, both try to purchase your services? If one wishes for you to attack a city, or caravan, but the other wishes to defend it? Organic dilemmas.
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    @Amnot

    Hi! And thanks for asking, that's a great question.

    In situations like that, I would then propose an auctioning system, the highest bidder will be the one that has our services. Of course, the higher the price, the better our service will be.

    It's worth mentioning that we will try nothing short of perfection when working for a client, or an ally. But, we're not going to send out one guy if you're going to spend half of your entire Guild's treasury, know what I mean? You have to get your money's worth, and we aim to meet that.
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    This certainly is interesting, it's a good thing that the guild caters to all trades while still being focused in the militaristic branch. I like the services you offer to clients as well, pretty neat that you guys are up for alliances too. I am excited to seeing all of this in action in the future.
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    @FilipQuab

    Heya,

    Super happy that you like our concept!
    The end goal is to be self-sufficient, enough to carry out whatever we're aiming for, without having to rely on others. And hopefully, in the long run, to be able to trade off our excess.
    I think we're all pretty hyped to see where this all goes in the future! :)
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    Yeah, his seems like a fun idea. I'd certainly by willing to join, I'm 17 now but by the time the game arrives I should be 18. However, you said that it's primarily a PVP guild. If there was an event that was threatening a node would you extend your services to participate in the event and possibly avert the following destruction? Also, what do you do when you are hired to guard a convoy but the convey ends up sacked? Do you still get paid? Sorry for the many questions, and if there are obvious answers to them.
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    Heya man! :)
    Nice to see that you are interested! We do accept members that are under 18, given a certain maturity level, so please head on over to our Discord and have a chat with us! :D You'll find the link above!

    As for your questions:
    Yes we are indeed primarily a PvP-guild - but I want to make a disclaimer: We are not planning to grief, troll, or otherwise torment anyone in-game. We are not a band of brigands and thieves. We plan to follow a contract system where-in people can hire us for protection (or maybe for an attack as you allude to later).

    Now, with regards to extending our services to participate in events (PvE-related or otherwise) we will participate in these if it serves the interest of Phoenix Guard- and / or possible allies. We do prefer to call ourselves a PvX-guild for that reason. It just so happens that due to the very nature of this game, the players are both protagonists and antagonists at the same time.

    Concerning your dilemma as described- there are a lot of variables to consider, that we are currently working on a system that can help us with situations like the one you describe. Some of it we are only able to theorize on at the moment, because we simply don't know enough about the game yet (currency values, etc.). Is there a contract system in game already? Or do we make one of our own? - At the moment we are currently working on our very own Contract system, that includes everything from potential prices (working on making an equation for this) as well as a payment-system. We are also working on a Loyalty System so that our returning costumers enjoy benefits from continuing our employment. And who knows? They may eventually become an ally.

    I hope this answers your questions, I hope it was not too long a read! But we take this guild and this game seriously - and we are committed to have as much fun as possible in the coming time! Thanks for your questions! Please join us on Discord for a chat mate! :D
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    Hey @Noxion @Xitenic,
    I really like the idea/consept you guys came up with for the Guild.
    But do you actually think there will be guilds asking for your service, they can do it them self right? As example a guild can defend there own caravans or attack a caravan, why would they hire Pheonix Guard? They lose some of the gameplay and action then right?
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    @Tomtommer

    Heya! And thanks for the great question!

    I personally believe that Guilds will need our services, one way or another. Not every Guild in the game will be liked, some will be fighting alone, and would like a few extra hands. Some Guilds may be smaller, and don't have the men to defend their own caravans. And I would like to think that's when we step in.

    They do, indeed, lose out on some of the action, but nothing stops them from coming along with us, if they so wish. And in the situations of, say, a siege, I would like to think they'd be participating, too! :tongue:

    This may also be a major benefit for other Guilds, such as primarily RP, PvE, or trade-based Guilds, which may not have the gear, or the people to take on someone who's pushing them around. We'll be the ones evening out that battlefield.

    I hope that answers your question, if you'd like me to elaborate, at all, please do let me know. :)
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    Hello @Xitenic, @Noxion.

    I enjoyed reading your recruitment post here on the forums and glad to find that much of what you aim for lines up with what I personally am looking to do within AoC, in particular your long term goals.

    I also like how you seem to be organising your guild in such a way that whilst your "core" will be more hardcore you still have a part of the guild that weill be less hardcore based in that of the artisan branch.

    I must admit whilst I enjoy PvP as much as the next person I am not the best at it and both branches have aspects that I find appealing. :)

    Consider me sold, sir!

    Where do I sign? :smiley:
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    @Desseus

    Hey man! We are happy that you like what you see - I don't know why the link to our discord isn't showing above - but I'll provide you with a link here:


    https://discord.gg/hDeeV

    You can come and talk with us there at all times :smile:
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    Sounds great! :)
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    **Announcement**
    Our own, official forums are now up! Check it out!
    https://aocphoenixguard.enjin.com/
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    **Announcement**
    Our own, official forums are now up! Check 'em out!
    https://aocphoenixguard.enjin.com/
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    **Announcement**
    Our own, official forums are now up! Check 'em out!
    https://aocphoenixguard.enjin.com/
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    Joined a few days ago now and been playing rainbow six:siege with some of the members and chatting away since! :smiley:
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    joined a few days ago, nice chatty community in discord!

    would recommend :wink:

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    yo one of the officers here! Fantastic guild and working hard on getting a strong team before release! So come and join us on the discord if you want to know more. 
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    Remember if your interested please Apply on our own guild forum! 
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    or join discord :)
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    Looking forward to play with/against different PvP guilds. Please join the Diplomacy Discord so we can have a chat about choosing the same server closer to the release. You can contact @Needletail about the Discord.

    See you in the battlefield.
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    Thank you @AeonAuron ::) It has been done! Hope to chat with you in there!
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    ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited June 2017
    Guild fair soon guys, do not forget to check forums for what we have been discussing.
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    From the ashes of creation you shall rise phoenix. RISE!
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    From the ashes of creation you shall rise phoenix. RISE!
    I believe Steyen hinted at one of the gods of the world being a phoenix, we must secretly be a cult :D.
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    We are still gathering more member's Daily! so if you are interested please do hit up our forums or join our discord for a chat! 
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    Still recruiting and looking for more members.
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    Hello there, do you guys play any other MMO's right at the moment or this is solely AoC project as of now? I'm looking for options and it would be neat to get to know people closer than just forum. Thanks in advance!
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    ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited August 2017
    Dolo said:
    Hello there, do you guys play any other MMO's right at the moment or this is solely AoC project as of now? I'm looking for options and it would be neat to get to know people closer than just forum. Thanks in advance!
    Right now we are spread out between a few games, I know some of our members have recently gone back to GW2 and one or two still playing BDO but for the most part we are playing other games and game genres together. Rainbow Six:Siege, PUBG, HotS a tiny bit, Farcry 4 and a few others. We are mostly waiting for new MMO's to come out currently and hoping for a late 2017 or early 2018 release or at least beta stages. Personally waiting to get into the beta for Camelot Unchained.

    Feel free to stop by to our Discord anytime and have a chat with some of our members when they are on to see what else other people are playing as for many of us it changes as much as the wind does haha!
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