First person View

Hi, I was thinking if this game will have first person view and VR support? I think it would be amazing to have the option for VR and FPV on an MMO!

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  • @Furkettun

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    On First Person view I can agree on but VR, ah, no. We're just not there yet. VR's 'benefits' will be outweighed by its limitations. Furthermore not everyone has a VR setup, yeah, I know - they are on the rise and everything is becoming more and more affordable but now, nah.


    ~ Zention
  • I dont know about the VR thing, but Zention says it may not get implemented. But the first person view would probably be similar to how BDO (and a few thousand others) did their camera settings (scroll to zoom/zoom out).
  • i would love to see VR, however i dont think that the VR tech we have currently available would do this game justice. maybe in a few years if the tech gets better.
  • [quote quote=3288]i dont think that the VR tech we have currently available would do this game justice[/quote]

    Are you also hoping for a VR setup similar to Sword Art Online? ;) If this game can deliver what Steven wants to achieve I also wouldn't mind the missing logout button :D
  • [quote quote=3289]<blockquote><div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/first-person-view/#post-3288" rel="nofollow">Shunex wrote:</a></div>
    i dont think that the VR tech we have currently available would do this game justice
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    Are you also hoping for a VR setup similar to Sword Art Online? <img alt="?" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2/svg/1f609.svg" /> If this game can deliver what Steven wants to achieve I also wouldn’t mind the missing logout button <img alt="?" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2/svg/1f600.svg" />

    [/quote]

    haha that will be awesome but no, the occulus rift isnt the greatest until we get a better of controlling the character <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=673LJCsRQi4" target="_blank">like this</a> and maybe full tactile suit <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO1fvBuf1Ho" target="_blank">like this</a> thoose things are out now but they cost ridiculous amounts of cash until they come down in price and more people can afford them i dont think we will see decent VR in games that much
  • [quote quote=3290]<blockquote><div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/first-person-view/#post-3289" rel="nofollow">kinzzoku wrote:</a></div>
    <blockquote><div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/first-person-view/#post-3288" rel="nofollow">Shunex wrote:</a></div>
    i dont think that the VR tech we have currently available would do this game justice

    </blockquote>
    Are you also hoping for a VR setup similar to Sword Art Online? <img alt="?" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2/svg/1f609.svg" /> If this game can deliver what Steven wants to achieve I also wouldn’t mind the missing logout button <img alt="?" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2/svg/1f600.svg" />

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    haha that will be awesome but no, the occulus rift isnt the greatest until we get a better of controlling the character <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=673LJCsRQi4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">like this</a> and maybe full tactile suit <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO1fvBuf1Ho" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">like this</a> thoose things are out now but they cost ridiculous amounts of cash until they come down in price and more people can afford them i dont think we will see VR in games.

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    Easy fix somehow manage to do this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2lglWr6gK8

    EDIT: The new formating on embeded vids is great... More blackbar than video ;)
  • @Shunex

    Check this out :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuXocPv-XQE

    But despite all this cool VR stuff, I can't imagine AoC working properly in a VR setting. The game would have to be in first person, and the combat would probably have to be more action based to be immersive in VR. Also, .. I will not play a VR MMO unless it forces everyone to be in VR. waaaay too significant of a disadvantage for the players in VR vs the players who will not be in VR.
  • @Darshx1

    Good point! There would be pros&cons either having a VR-setup or not!
    We're simply not there yet, also, something like Sword Art Online (worst Anime ever, and the Light Novel, oh Lord, never read so much crap, no offense though) is basically impossible as things are now.

    We would need multiple sensors, tracking systems / 'a gaming room' - in short, for it to work somewhat decently. Furthermore, processing power / internet connection / godly PING, yeah - I doubt that most people have acces to these prequisites! Besides, that wouldn't even be the biggest problem. 'MM' in MMO. 'Massive multiplayer', that is just not possible. Regardless of how godly your setup is, frame drops occur, especially in super big boss battles and cities, places where a lot of people are. So, running constantly at 90s FPS, yeah, with all the effects going on - pretty unlikely! In VR everything has to run smooth or you won't have fun playing it. Since we're talking Action Combat, VR won't work. You don't want any lag, FPS drops. You will feel nauseous fairly quickly.

    ~ Zention
  • @Zention As far as a Sword Art Online type VR MMO, check this guy's VR UI. its actually really impressive. Combine this guy's hand / arms VR motion with the 3D rudder I linked in the previous video.. and you pretty much have everything you need for a pretty sweet game.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d70Sc0IzKm0&t=74s
  • @darshx1

    Okay, the same thing please in fully 3D rendered graphics, motions, effects, animations.. :P
    I see where you are going with this idea / concept. Do I think VR is the future? - hell yeah. But is the future 'now', not so much. As stated above, yes - it works, but does it also work in a Open World game with multiple players, effects, shadows, all those nice graphical extras? I dare say, it does not.

    ~ Zention
  • [quote quote=3318]<a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/users/zention/" rel="nofollow">@zention</a> As far as a Sword Art Online type VR MMO, check this guy’s VR UI. its actually really impressive. Combine this guy’s hand / arms VR motion with the 3D rudder I linked in the previous video.. and you pretty much have everything you need for a pretty sweet game.

    <span class="embed-youtube" style="text-align:center; display: block;">[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d70Sc0IzKm0?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&start=74&wmode=transparent&w=1400&h=818]</span>

    [/quote]

    thats looking pretty good thanks for linking that, ill keep a eye on that as it develops :)
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