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Its my view that the game would be enriched by steampunk/muskets
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Its my view that having monster hunter like fantasy guns and wallguns would be pretty cool and set the scientific nodes apart as well as add another layer of sick fantasy to the game.
It is however your choice to make the game exactly how you want and if you want fantasy without light science elements thats up to you. However I feel like its kinda dumb not to explore it.
Science and magic is kinda a big genre of fiction atm. and it can be done in so many different ways.
Monster Hunter being one of my favorite examples.
Here is an example of samurai using muskets and such. Even cool handcannon stuff was used stuff that looks straight up fantastical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKRfhNWLb4
It is however your choice to make the game exactly how you want and if you want fantasy without light science elements thats up to you. However I feel like its kinda dumb not to explore it.
Science and magic is kinda a big genre of fiction atm. and it can be done in so many different ways.
Monster Hunter being one of my favorite examples.
Here is an example of samurai using muskets and such. Even cool handcannon stuff was used stuff that looks straight up fantastical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKRfhNWLb40
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They're that early in production.
Honestly the only one I have to convince to get this in is Steven. Steven if you're out there. There are people who would die for this
Also there is an anime where zombies with metal encased hearts board trains that go to specially fortified cities for supplies and battle towns its really well done example of having cake and eating it too.
I'm not even saying have trains in game. I'm saying light science. Windmills and water driven factories were very early in the industrial revolution.
To me its just not logical to include some early medieval armor designs and not include muskets which were very basic weaponry. Fireworks are super old and I'd even be on the side of just going with firework like weaponry or a magic mix or w/e
Its just so much STUFF is there to be adapted I see it as a big shame to not get in on it...when you have a node thats gameplay is designed to be based around science.
Mechanically they could be very different simply based on how you want to create narrative.
But logically they're practically the same thing.
Why have potions in a game that function based on magic when we know of medicine and herbiculture and real practical applications of tonics from our world?
What is the purpose besides ADDING magic and ignoring (not removing the reason why we know these things exist in reality and therefore their association) physical properties of nature?
I'm still ok with it basically just being his personal taste, but I want to at least inform him that he's not correct. That it is in fact just personal taste.
I suggest he try vermintide for another example of guns in a fantasy setting.
at 42 minutes
Also because guns are overpowered in one game they've played: Pathfinder? Therefore they're bad? Come on.
World of Warcraft has guns...does anyone think thats a less magical world because of it?
All swords armor arrows siege weapons castles, mounts, boats all work on science and physical properties of matter, biology intrinsic properties of existence.
Its simply adding FICTION to it that creates fantasy.
All crafting is simplified game-ified science and industry.
To put it simply.
What IS fantasy to you Steven and Co. ???
I do not mean this as a flame. You seem so insistent on your point of view that you are either intentionally not hearing what is said or reading what is printed. You do not see what they have stated as giving you a good case? They are not going to cater to you or any one individual's satisfaction just to change the direction they plan to go in. I am sorry that you are dissatisfied with what has been presented as the aim and direction of the game. Maybe this is not the game for you.
Why are the enemies forgotten when gods exist and can literally tell us what happened??
What are the characteristics of their gods in this game that would make them forget?
They're not all phoenixes are they?
Also if World of Warcraft isn't high fantasy I don't know what is. Also calling muskets in a game = to steam punk is ignorant of what steampunk is.
its for use to find out what has happened and change the world
Perhaps they just don't want a steam punk type gun game because it's not the theme they have in mind.
Zomnivore said: Heh heh. This paragraph made me laugh a little.
Let them make their universe, they make the laws that rules it. This is the Fiction.
Oh I'm kidding you guys I just want to flame the forums and be mad at someone thats the only reason I'm typing here...not because I genuinely want to know something but because I'm having a temper tantrum and want to be mad...
Have w/e world view you want I don't care.
This kind of logic isn't something that would be foreign to masters of the mystical.
Magic Dakka is already a thing.
This is not the 40K universe... (and YES I love my 40k Orks!)
I just want to know why this fantasy is better then my suggestion of just having science in the game with some level of accuracy. Or better yet a fantastical version of science...
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Greener is meaner ya grotz
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In my opinion asking for their magical knowledge to be so advanced but then having their scientific knowledge being so limited is asking for trouble.
If you know how to launch a fireball you should probably know how to fly or know how to shoot a bazooka like object. If you can set runes you could create a rocket with a rock and w/e magical components needed to set it into motion.
It is not about the people being dumb... Lord of the Rings, no guns. Conan the Barbarian, no guns... Game of Thrones? no guns...
looks pretty clear to me your just trying to get a reaction out of people.