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Desire for the ability to create player-written books in game? Perhaps based on player voting?

As an aspiring fantasy author who's beginning to create short stories to supplement my novel-length work, I think it would be excellent if people were able to create their own short works of fiction and have them converted to books able to be shared in-game. You could choose to either print them yourself on only one character, and distribute non-tradeable copies to your friends, or if you're part of a city that's large enough, enter it into a library and allow anyone to retrieve a copy.

Obviously, you wouldn't want the game world / library inventory flooded with just any old guff, so I think it would be really great if there was a section of the Ashes site dedicated to uploading text files, "The Writer's Guild", where people could vote to have an entry allowed in the game. If an entry reached a certain number of votes, the text file could be converted to an in-game "draft copy" sent directly to the author's character of choice where the player could pick the color of the binding for the icon, give it a final draft title, and print it themselves. From there, they could decide to either exclusively print non-tradeable copies off the first edition, or submit a copy to the library and make their work publicly available. Maybe have a rating system of sorts and rewards for the top authors of the month/year? Could also be a way for aspiring real world authors to get their name out there and generate interest for their work.

What do you think?

Comments

  • I think having a library in a metropolis (need to be built) would be a great addition. I think that the library itself should accept all submissions (with a limit each month per person). Popular books go to a "popular" section which has a limit to the number of books which can be there. Books in the library can't be taken out but books which hit the "popular" section, for a fee, the author can publish it as an in game item people can buy and read anywhere. This keeps purchasable books limited while maintaining good quality.
    I am not sure how much the fee should be or how much control over the price of the books the author should have.
    What do you think?
  • I think it would have to have to much moderation because every book would have to be read by a moderator or someone might publish x rated books or books on terrorism. It would need to be watched very closely and I don't think the moderators have time for that. Its a nice idea though.
  • IDK, seems like you might be opening the door to a lot of fan fiction, and not just Ashes fan fiction. Not that there is inherently anything wrong with fan fiction, but LOTR fan fiction in Ashes would be... odd. Honestly both of you make great points and pitch a solid idea I would 100% back.

    I do think there should be an option to sell a book, by your character for in game currency, but I am not a fan of being rewarded by the game for "this month's author." I think that might bring in tons of scripts from people that just want that title but our submitting asinine stories. Now if there is a similar in game monthly reward for "best bard" and so forth then I would not have an issue here. If there is a leader board perhaps a category for "most books sold."
  • I really like this idea, but it's like a youtube 10h video, if you flag it, someone has to read it ENTIRELY to be sure that nothing is wrong with it.
    So maybe put a limit on the length of the books so that it stays within the "readable in less than XX hours/days". The author will have to divide his story in multiple books but it's better than nothing.


    Maybe a limit to how many of them you can publish per month?
  • a problem would be eventually also with lenght. Unlikely many people will spend in-game hours reading a book, mostly because those hours are paid and the same activity can be done for free offline.
    So I see mostly 2-3 pages narrations.
  • I like this idea. I wrote a similar idea not too long ago. :)
  • I don't know about voting on stories to be added to the game, but I would like books we as players can write in kinda like UO did. We used them for stories, Guild history & rules, treasure hunts, and a whole bunch more. Scribes could copy books and make it so they couldn't be edited too. Was pretty cool.
  • As someone who thoroughly enjoys good storytelling, I would love to see some player-written fiction. I'm not entirely sold on the idea of books however as I feel it has so many avenues for trolls to take advantage of the system.

    What I would like to propose is that perhaps you can have a server-wide or maybe even node-wide newspaper that is managed by the playerbase and serves as a creative outlet.

    There can be articles written about cutting edge developments, plot-points, events, tales and even crafting/market advertisements. These can be run by trusted players who enjoy chronicling this game's events.

    Legends may rise as tales are told about a band of heroes who uncovered certain legendary items or who defeated the tyrannical dragon threatening the defenseless village.

    Let me know what you think of such an idea.
  • I would have fun shipping outgoing members of w/e server I'm on. =p
  • I suggested a bards college building for cities but it all depends on what they can afford to do and what they designate as important I think RP features are a little lower on the tier of priority for them.
  • As far as the newspaper for the server or node, I don't know. You would ideally be limited on space due to some of the feedback so far in this thread. Also, many players would likely want to submit stories, so only having a few that can would not be fair. To that extent nobody will want to read all of the submissions to pick what goes in and what doesn't.

    I think this idea works really good on a guild basis. Guilds could potentially put out their own, even if it does contain obvious exaggerations. Cities could put out their own as well, meaning you have to have citizenship to submit but there is still the problem of who chooses what to publish.

    If these things could be worked out where libraries published short stories (1-2 pages text) and guild put out newspapers/magazines (1-2 pages text) it would be super awesome.

    From the DEV side my biggest concern would be those trying to alter or manipulate the lore and make it their own. They seem to really enjoy what they have planned and might be hesitant to allow random players (including trolls) from "publishing" material surrounding their lore.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited July 2017
     Waysm said:
    I really like this idea, but it's like a youtube 10h video, if you flag it, someone has to read it ENTIRELY to be sure that nothing is wrong with it.
    So maybe put a limit on the length of the books so that it stays within the "readable in less than XX hours/days". The author will have to divide his story in multiple books but it's better than nothing.


    Maybe a limit to how many of them you can publish per month?

    Azathoth said:
    IDK, seems like you might be opening the door to a lot of fan fiction, and not just Ashes fan fiction. Not that there is inherently anything wrong with fan fiction, but LOTR fan fiction in Ashes would be... odd. Honestly both of you make great points and pitch a solid idea I would 100% back.

    As far as fan fiction and "flaggable" content goes -- this is why I propose a forum of sorts where people can *apply* to have sometime entered into the game, and have it be approved by a certain number of supporters. This way you can easily sort out well told stories/musings/poetry etc from people trolling with random gibberish, fan-fiction from other established IPs, or X-rated content. I don't think it would be too complicated to set up, and it would also help to keep the library system from getting flooded with entries. Also, if someone on the dev team were required to read each entry that gets voted into the game, requiring it to be popular enough would keep them from having a backlog of entries to scan through. I do however like the suggestion that there should be a monthly submission cap. I don't think anyone could pump out a decent short story or short collection of poetry worth reading more than twice a month while still spending free time in-game.
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