Do you think backers will have an advantage?

ArchivedUser

Hi, I would like to back the game up but I do not have the money to,I was wondering on peoples opinions on what they thought on the stages, if they are worth the money, why did you back the game up if you did and do you think backers will have a short-term or long-term advantage? In my opinion I think that the Backers will have a short term advantage as people will start to catch up with them but in Long-term effect you have the cosmetics which don't really do much, only to show how different you want to be

ArchivedUser

The two reasons I backed were exactly the two long term advantages I was looking for:

(a) The realisation and general health of the game because more important than anything is that this game makes it to launch and doesn't deviate from the path Intrepid has set themselves.  

(b) the lifetime sub because this game has the potential to be awesomesauce and It's a last chance saloon for me.

ArchivedUser

I backed because the game deisgn is the successor to the EQNext game design.
And I want people working on developing those concepts.

I don't believe backers will have any in-game advantage beyond knowing how the game works and a headstart finding the nodes they want to progress.

ArchivedUser

Short term advantage maybe. Backers will have access to Alphas and Betas so they'll know more about the game, game mechanics, and they'll understand their class better. That is the only advantage I see.

ArchivedUser

I think getting in early to try the game out in betas and the head start are a bit of an advantage but Intrepid has done an extremely good job of not adding P2W so far. 

ArchivedUser

The only advantage a "backer" will have is their early knowledge of the game. Even if you don't " back" but follow the news, streams and updates that are announced you'll have the same knowledge too ^^ It won't give you a physical advantage but will deepen your understanding of the games mechanics and will aid you when your journey begins ^^

For the same reasons mentioned above, that is why I've chosen to give my support to Intrepid. Except I couldn't afford the life sub pack - but I love Intrepids philosophy and I respect their 4 pillar system which I think we'll help them develop the game we desire from the roots

 The four pillars are

1. Economy

2. Nodes

3. Meaningful Conflict

4. Narrative

 Each pillar works together to create a risk/reward experience that is truly an enjoyable experience.

I can't wait to play with everyone We will create an amazing world

ArchivedUser

For me, it has many of the features I was looking for in a game with the exception of PvP.  However, I'm not totally against PvP, as the caravan system sounds very exciting; and hopefully there is the Corruption system that, cross fingers, will be severe enough to discourage ganking. 

Ashes appears to be a very deep system with many ways to participate, and where what your character does matters to an interactive world.  I'm hoping this will be my home for several years and with that dream I put my money on Ashes for a Lifetime subscription, and pretty nice skin perks.

ArchivedUser

I only backed for the kitty and Dawnbreaker mount
The lifetime sub is a good deal  but Backers don't really have advantage (or very short-term ^^).
Items are only cosmetics and other things (monster token for example) does not affect other players experience.

ArchivedUser

O, forgot to address the advantage part.   Not really, except that we will have a good understanding of how the game works, perhaps where we want to start out in game.  That said, I'm sure that by launch, the game play will be covered by streamers, and forum posts, and guides, so that anyone who has been interested will have seen and read them.  Also they plan to have a character creation program out ahead of launch so you won't have to waste time making design decisions when you first enter.

ArchivedUser

Well you could just watch streamers and get a similar advantage (information wise) by watching them.

ArchivedUser

You'll also get to work out where all the probable taverns are going to be. Considering how much I drink, lets file that under Short term advantage.

ArchivedUser

Dygz said:

I backed because the game deisgn is the successor to the EQNext game design.
And I want people working on developing those concepts.

I don't believe backers will have any in-game advantage beyond knowing how the game works and a headstart finding the nodes they want to progress.

^^^^^

Exactly. There is no P2W here.

ArchivedUser

backers do have an advantage when people look at us they'll be distracted for a fraction of a second cuz our awesome backer title, gear, and mount skins that gives us that opening 2 strike  

ArchivedUser

Poisonz said:

backers do have an advantage when people look at us they'll be distracted for a fraction of a second cuz our awesome backer title, gear, and mount skins that gives us that opening 2 strike  

Well, I suppose there IS the 'You  look marvelous!!" factor......

I hadn't considered those ramifications.

ArchivedUser

Crymoar said:

Poisonz said:

backers do have an advantage when people look at us they'll be distracted for a fraction of a second cuz our awesome backer title, gear, and mount skins that gives us that opening 2 strike  

Well, I suppose there IS the 'You  look marvelous!!" factor......

I hadn't considered those ramifications.

That can also backfire in sieges, when you don't want people to see you  

ArchivedUser

Diura said:

The only advantage a "backer" will have is their early knowledge of the game. Even if you don't " back" but follow the news, streams and updates that are announced you'll have the same knowledge too ^^ It won't give you a physical advantage but will deepen your understanding of the games mechanics and will aid you when your journey begins ^^

For the same reasons mentioned above, that is why I've chosen to give my support to Intrepid. Except I couldn't afford the life sub pack - but I love Intrepids philosophy and I respect their 4 pillar system which I think we'll help them develop the game we desire from the roots

 The four pillars are

1. Economy

2. Nodes

3. Meaningful Conflict

4. Narrative

 Each pillar works together to create a risk/reward experience that is truly an enjoyable experience.

I can't wait to play with everyone We will create an amazing world

Yep I can see were you are coming from with  Intrepids philosophy 

ArchivedUser

Crymoar said:

Poisonz said:

backers do have an advantage when people look at us they'll be distracted for a fraction of a second cuz our awesome backer title, gear, and mount skins that gives us that opening 2 strike  

Well, I suppose there IS the 'You  look marvelous!!" factor......

I hadn't considered those ramifications.

Oh, I have no doubt that my barrel Dwarf body will look awesome in my Angel latex suit.........Non backers will be blown away!

ArchivedUser

Playing another game that had early access (alpha/beta) for people who "backed" it, I found that on launch the experienced people had a knowledge advantage and that was about it.

Over time, I've also found that a LOT of them burned out quicker than more recent players.

ArchivedUser

Kratz said:

Crymoar said:

Poisonz said:

backers do have an advantage when people look at us they'll be distracted for a fraction of a second cuz our awesome backer title, gear, and mount skins that gives us that opening 2 strike  

Well, I suppose there IS the 'You  look marvelous!!" factor......

I hadn't considered those ramifications.

Oh, I have no doubt that my barrel Dwarf body will look awesome in my Angel latex suit.........Non backers will be blown away!

I'm sure I won't get jealous

ArchivedUser

No real advantage other than awesome cosmetic exclusives and lifetime sub. 

ArchivedUser

Ketchup said:

Hi, I would like to back the game up but I do not have the money to,I was wondering on peoples opinions on what they thought on the stages, if they are worth the money, why did you back the game up if you did and do you think backers will have a short-term or long-term advantage? In my opinion I think that the Backers will have a short term advantage as people will start to catch up with them but in Long-term effect you have the cosmetics which don't really do much, only to show how different you want to be

Backers will have a huge advantage, an advantage of looking far better

ArchivedUser

When I find a game I enjoy I play it forever. I still occasionally play Morrowind and Fallout 3 although I have moved on to Skyrim & Fallout 4. The only real break I take from any of those games is when I get tired of seeing the same thing over & over.

I backed Ashes because IS promises change. If I could go around the entire server in 1 year, and when I made it back to where I started it was different, the life-time sub would have, for me, officially paid off.

The only advantage I am looking forward to is experience with my class and PVP prior to launch. However, since I haven't played an MMO for ages I think this advantage will put me on par with most of the rest of you.

ArchivedUser

Backers have the advantage as they get a lifetime sub and bragging rights with costumes but not much else.
and no in game combat advantage.

ArchivedUser

...backers will have an advantage...their vanity swagger will be higher than most.

ArchivedUser

Is looking swag trill ???? really an advantage though? :P

ArchivedUser

Those that have access to the games via alpha and betas will only have a slight advantage. I forsee this game to be covered...indepth... by streamers and content creates so the "early" access to the game won't be a huge gap to those that do not. Other than that; the Head Start shouldn't have any major advantages to those that do not have it, as a few key game features are disabled during that time.

ArchivedUser

XombieCrisis said:

Is looking swag trill ???? really an advantage though? :P

Wizard_Beard said:

...backers will have an advantage...their vanity swagger will be higher than most.

Well @Wizard_Beard and @XombieCrisis I'll be more fashionable then you one day don't you worry

ArchivedUser

I defiantly think backers will have a short term advantage. They will get to try out what works best before the game actually starts and get in to the game faster.

ArchivedUser

Alistair said:

Those that have access to the games via alpha and betas will only have a slight advantage. I forsee this game to be covered...indepth... by streamers and content creates so the "early" access to the game won't be a huge gap to those that do not. Other than that; the Head Start shouldn't have any major advantages to those that do not have it, as a few key game features are disabled during that time.

Exactly and you could start on a non headstart server if you wanted to. Just watch a streamer you like and you'll be set.

ArchivedUser

Backers get a major advantage.

They get the special ability to stroke their e-Peen with exclusive skins and titles to show how great they are.

If my experience in online games has taught me anything. Veteran status' and exclusive markers make a huge difference to how some players treat eachother (Elitist / Newbs / Casuals).

ArchivedUser

This would be the case if it was one big mega-server. But as we get closer to launch and they give us the total number of servers, the number of epeen strokers will be spread much more thinly. Unlike other mmos where you can basically go it alone, Ashes is looking to be built upon the premise of active interaction with your community. And just like in life, act like a narcissistic dick and people will shun you. Or elect you President.