duels, 1v1 and group

ArchivedUser

One of the things that has bothered me in games is how they handle dueling. Most games only allow for 1v1s with little or no options on the rules of the dual. I find this undesirable.

This is what I'd like in a duel system

Options for; when the duel ends (health lvl or death, individual/group)

Group vs group duels, (even group vs group vs group)

duels within a group. (Basically members of group can pick sides then commence fighting when everyone is ready. FFA posible)

Duel participants only flag towards each other

A wager system where participants can bet on the outcome of the fight, or place something up as a prize

Duel system separate from the arena system

ArchivedUser

As long as there is an option to turn off duel requests. Nothing like running through an area and getting spammed by idiots. It is also used as an exploit to block people from being able to react to situations if the game makes them clear the request before they can click on anything else.

ArchivedUser

I'm not sure why those mechanics need to be separate from an arena?  Assuming you can pick your opponent in the arena, wouldn't it be better to do that there?

I hope people can spectate the arenas...

Betting is a must IMO.    Hell, make a whole profession "bookey"

ArchivedUser

tugowar said:

I'm not sure why those mechanics need to be separate from an arena?  Assuming you can pick your opponent in the arena, wouldn't it be better to do that there?

I hope people can spectate the arenas...

Betting is a must IMO.    Hell, make a whole profession "bookey"

Arenas are a military(lvl 4?) node thing, if I am correct, which means without a dueling system if I lived in a non military node in order to have a duel with someone I'd either have to flag for pvp so anyone could attack me or the person I was dueling with or I'd have to taval potentially a long way to do it

ArchivedUser

Hm, I didn't understand arenas to be solely a military node thing.  /shrug

ArchivedUser

tugowar said:

Hm, I didn't understand arenas to be solely a military node thing.  /shrug

They are to  be located in Military nodes.

ArchivedUser

Arenas are how those who like to pvp will be chosen as leader of that city. Top of the leaderboard at a certain time will most likely become mayor for a month. Don't see them doing it weekly or daily as the amount of chaos that would occur with tax rates, building decisions, and so on.

ArchivedUser

Hi,

I realize that a particular arena mode will determine military node leadership. It was my understanding that there would also be arenas for the sake of arenas, complete with leader boards and all. These arenas may require the city (of any type of node) to build a colleseum so you have a place to queue, but it wasn't specific to military nodes. Just that one arena mode to determine leaders. 

-tug

ArchivedUser

tugowar said:

Hi,

I realize that a particular arena mode will determine military node leadership. It was my understanding that there would also be arenas for the sake of arenas, complete with leader boards and all. These arenas may require the city (of any type of node) to build a colleseum so you have a place to queue, but it wasn't specific to military nodes. Just that one arena mode to determine leaders. 

-tug

^This

I don't recall arenas being specific to military nodes.

ArchivedUser

Duels being separate from arenas doesn't mean that arenas can't use duels or duels, arenas. But rather that duels should be able to happen without arenas and that duels outside of arenas don't affect arena ranking or rewards ect... if it did affect it then it would open up all sorts of ways to abuse it, to gain an advantage in arenas.

The reason for duels is to have a private fight. I'd prefer not to have to go to an arena just to have it... there is a lot of pros to being able to have duels outside of arenas, and not many cons if any

ArchivedUser

I'm fine with dueling anywhere so long as I can block duel requests.  It's either that or some sort of timer before you can challenge someone again, which I wouldn't be a big fan of.  There's always one person that just can't take no for an answer and will spam you over and over.  Also, @tugowar is stealing my ways of making money in other MMOs in the past.  Nothing to see here folks, move along!  

ArchivedUser

Opiee said:

I'm fine with dueling anywhere so long as I can block duel requests.  It's either that or some sort of timer before you can challenge someone again, which I wouldn't be a big fan of.  There's always one person that just can't take no for an answer and will spam you over and over.  Also, @tugowar is stealing my ways of making money in other MMOs in the past.  Nothing to see here folks, move along!  

I agre an option to block duel request is a must, but timer should not be till they can request again, but till they can request to dual someone that has declined them

Edit: should probably have an option to block requests from a particular person, to further deter spamming

ArchivedUser

Ninja Shadow said:

Opiee said:

I'm fine with dueling anywhere so long as I can block duel requests.  It's either that or some sort of timer before you can challenge someone again, which I wouldn't be a big fan of.  There's always one person that just can't take no for an answer and will spam you over and over.  Also, @tugowar is stealing my ways of making money in other MMOs in the past.  Nothing to see here folks, move along!  

I agre an option to block duel request is a must, but timer should not be till they can request again, but till they can request to dual someone that has declined them

You're probably right, but still think the first option is the better way to go.

ArchivedUser

Opiee said:

Ninja Shadow said:

Opiee said:

I'm fine with dueling anywhere so long as I can block duel requests.  It's either that or some sort of timer before you can challenge someone again, which I wouldn't be a big fan of.  There's always one person that just can't take no for an answer and will spam you over and over.  Also, @tugowar is stealing my ways of making money in other MMOs in the past.  Nothing to see here folks, move along!  

I agre an option to block duel request is a must, but timer should not be till they can request again, but till they can request to dual someone that has declined them

You're probably right, but still think the first option is the better way to go.

Perhaps something like if x amount of declines in z time then prevented from requesting for y time? Would also be good?

ArchivedUser

Ninja Shadow said:

Opiee said:

Ninja Shadow said:

Opiee said:

I'm fine with dueling anywhere so long as I can block duel requests.  It's either that or some sort of timer before you can challenge someone again, which I wouldn't be a big fan of.  There's always one person that just can't take no for an answer and will spam you over and over.  Also, @tugowar is stealing my ways of making money in other MMOs in the past.  Nothing to see here folks, move along!  

I agre an option to block duel request is a must, but timer should not be till they can request again, but till they can request to dual someone that has declined them

You're probably right, but still think the first option is the better way to go.

Perhaps something like if x amount of declines in z time then prevented from requesting for y time? Would also be good?

My apologies.  I meant blocking duel requests, not my other idea.  I probably should have clarified that much better.  Mistakes were made.

ArchivedUser

Opiee said:

Ninja Shadow said:

Opiee said:

Ninja Shadow said:

Opiee said:

I'm fine with dueling anywhere so long as I can block duel requests.  It's either that or some sort of timer before you can challenge someone again, which I wouldn't be a big fan of.  There's always one person that just can't take no for an answer and will spam you over and over.  Also, @tugowar is stealing my ways of making money in other MMOs in the past.  Nothing to see here folks, move along!  

I agre an option to block duel request is a must, but timer should not be till they can request again, but till they can request to dual someone that has declined them

You're probably right, but still think the first option is the better way to go.

Perhaps something like if x amount of declines in z time then prevented from requesting for y time? Would also be good?

My apologies.  I meant blocking duel requests, not my other idea.  I probably should have clarified that much better.  Mistakes were made.

no sweat

ArchivedUser

Let's settle this via Trial by Combat!

ArchivedUser

The more options the better.  I would imagine this could be helpful for practice with this game having some of its focus on PvP.

ArchivedUser

Another possible exploit. My friend and I declare duel. We are unattackable except to each other. Now lets go gather. Tra la la la.

ArchivedUser

UnknownSystemError said:

Another possible exploit. My friend and I declare duel. We are unattackable except to each other. Now lets go gather. Tra la la la.

It doesn't have to prevent people attacking or flagging for pvp just allow them to fight without having to flag for pvp

ArchivedUser

ArchivedUser

UnknownSystemError said:

That's nice, but my op still stands

ArchivedUser

It could lead to easy exploitation but I am fond of the concept.

ArchivedUser

XombieCrisis said:

It could lead to easy exploitation but I am fond of the concept.

How so? Maybe we can come up with things to prevent exploitation