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Bots & You
Do people think botting will be a problem in ashes of creation, the scourge of so may mmo's. IS will make promises that they will police their game curb botting and not allow it to take hold. But as we know there are those out there with big wallets who like to get ahead by purchasing gold amongst other services.
My question is, what will you do if you come across a bot in the world? Killing the bot which no doubt will not fight back results in corruption for you will people be willing to take the corruption hit? Or will you simply report the offending account.
Personally I will kill the bot and will take pleasure in the act, though I will make sure it is a bot first. Really can't stand bots and what damage they can do to the economy of a game, skewing prices and flooding markets with raw materials, plus those who buy gold are honestly no better.
I do hope there are measures in place to prevent botting from becoming a problem, the last mmo I played had huge problems with bots and still does, I gave up reporting them as a month later the same bots would still be there. I truly hope ashes has effective measures in place to stop botting before it even starts.
My question is, what will you do if you come across a bot in the world? Killing the bot which no doubt will not fight back results in corruption for you will people be willing to take the corruption hit? Or will you simply report the offending account.
Personally I will kill the bot and will take pleasure in the act, though I will make sure it is a bot first. Really can't stand bots and what damage they can do to the economy of a game, skewing prices and flooding markets with raw materials, plus those who buy gold are honestly no better.
I do hope there are measures in place to prevent botting from becoming a problem, the last mmo I played had huge problems with bots and still does, I gave up reporting them as a month later the same bots would still be there. I truly hope ashes has effective measures in place to stop botting before it even starts.
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Corruption could be tricky with them, but feel free to kill them if you like. Honestly, I always kited mobs onto bots and had characters on multiple factions just to deal with them.
*Intrepid studios wants to have an active in-game GM presence. Someone that is active in game, that are able to go around the world and cleanse the world as seeing fit. Banning bots on the spot. Etc Etc.
The bot will simply respawn and continue its work and at some point be banned anyway, so you got corrupted for nothing.
Personally, for said reasons, I will not bother killing bots. A simple report should suffice and I hope the management team will look into the reports rather than "Don't worry about it, no big deal".
I agree with you that a simple report should be enough, its just that my experience with the current game I play suggests otherwise. I report the train of bots running in a circle and a month later they are still there, day in day out. I just hope ashes will be much more proactive when it comes to botting, and with the economy being one of the pillars of the game rampant botting will skew the economy badly.
We would all like to say that the community in and of itself will provocatively not tolerate bots, nor ever turn to a website to purchase commodity. Unfortunately this is not human nature. To be competitive and always seek the advantage is what most people would do given the chance. This being the case, it becomes 100% the responsibility of the management to be vigilant on this particular issue. There are some catch 22's however;
AoC is managed well and has great value -> more incentive for bots to exist
More bots that exist -> less value AoC has overall and is more difficult to manage well.
More bot accounts that exist -> more revenue for IS to use on things like preventing bots.
Spending more revenue preventing/banning bots -> less revenue from the lack of bot accounts
That being said, the less bots and better job IS does, the more quality long term accounts will exist thus being the best case scenario for all. The steps that they have said to be taking so far sound like a good deal of thought was put into this issue.
- Subscription (bots don't like this, but it won't stop them)
- No world wide mail system (bots handlers will have to meet you or near you, more labor, they don't like this)
- Slow travel only (even more labor to deliver a product, very inconvenient)
- GM to be active and in the servers (not something you see very often)
I have high hopes for this, but yo know what they say;
"Where there's a will, there's a way."
-CS
I have a question on this. When bots are in a system do they have a login feature that requires it to execute the scripts that run them to activate? I have never used them or looked into how they worked so I am curious.
On the account side is it possible to negate the script with a feature that has to keep the person involved? Make it impossible for the Bot to work without human interaction. This comes down to Intrepid having the ability to something like this. Just my 2.4246 cents on this.
Ox
Just curious?
Ox
The ToS is not up yet, but it will most likely include a line that goes something like "We reserve the right to monitor what programs you are running on your PC".
If their algorythm or whatevey they use catches you running a fishy program and the game at the same time, they will investigate you. If it turns out that you have been using keypressers or macro recorders while playing their game, good riddance to your account.
Bot users I can understand, since half of their work goes into how to not get detected, but people using keypressers are just begging to get banned.
I guess I am a purest when it comes to games and what the developer created. When people are openly thwarting that with this sort of activity it tends to get me angry. I hopped out to the web to see if there was anything out there and to my dismay the first page alone was sites on how to do this and not get caught. My first thought was why play the game? Second thing was gold miners. I remember this from WoW and many other games that had that problem. I just shake my head at this stuff. What I did find comical is the crowds that support this stuff. It helps farming materials and the like. Once again, the same questions came up. I don’t have an answer to how to stop them, but I hope to hell Intrepid does.
Ox
OBV. this is a rough idea and has a major flaw. people abusing it to screw with real players. maybe set the number required to be to high to do that or just get everyone abusing it banned instead(teach em not to be douches at least).
my main point is, maybe there is a system that could be used to allow players to better call out and deal with bots as well as mods.
Most bots are pretty careful not to use AoE skills so often training monsters to them does not work. Best is to either kill them, or kill the things they are killing which makes it worthless for them to do. If they are gathering and you cant gather I guess it is just killing then.
I figure I can do the exact same thing in AoC without accruing a single corruption tick
This and the points mentioned by @UnknownSystemError are the reasons I am not worried about bots.