Glorious Alpha Two Testers!
Alpha Two Realms are now unlocked for Phase II testing!
For our initial launch, testing will begin on Friday, December 20, 2024, at 10 AM Pacific and continue uninterrupted until Monday, January 6, 2025, at 10 AM Pacific. After January 6th, we’ll transition to a schedule of five-day-per-week access for the remainder of Phase II.
You can download the game launcher here and we encourage you to join us on our for the most up to date testing news.
Alpha Two Realms are now unlocked for Phase II testing!
For our initial launch, testing will begin on Friday, December 20, 2024, at 10 AM Pacific and continue uninterrupted until Monday, January 6, 2025, at 10 AM Pacific. After January 6th, we’ll transition to a schedule of five-day-per-week access for the remainder of Phase II.
You can download the game launcher here and we encourage you to join us on our for the most up to date testing news.
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I like the way ashes is going and I'm glad Steven and intrepid are doing what they want and not just making a clone. To me this is why we backed ashes not because it will be the best MMO ever(which I hope it will) but because its something new and interesting.
If we talk about MMORPGs WoW is still at top. Trend has been down for long, but some statistics still predicts only 1 million more losses within next 4 years. Next expansion and later upcoming classic are keeping fans within the game.
I have not seen the latest statistics of MMORPGs subs and could not find it either, so if someone can link this kind of list, it would be actually nice. I guess only FF14 is something which can be more popular than WoW.
People assume it's way more popular than it really is. According to this, there are only around 500k active characters in the world. And that's just characters , many of whom could be on the same accounts, so subs would probably be lower.
https://ffxivcensus.com
Wow has about 5mil subs still. Subs, not just characters. To be fair, this is an estimate, but it an estimate by using similar process to get the FF14 numbers.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/276601/number-of-world-of-warcraft-subscribers-by-quarter/
The FF14 numbers are based on a crawl that hits a loadstones every 3hrs or so and counts the number of unique characters that interact with it. I've seen numbers thrown around that FF14 has 10 mil subs, which this census show is probably true, but over 9mil are inactive, ergo, not playing. So 10mil accounts made. Not 10mil active players. Wow had 11mil active accounts in Wrath of the Lich King and peaked at 12mil.
The WoW numbers are also community made, based on estimates from the 5.6 mil number Blizzard last released during Warlords of Draenor. Plus websites that track guild progression, and other data on characters. Again, it's an estimate, but one backed by data.
Even if the numbers are off, the FF14 number is probably accurate to within half a million since they continually count and update. No way it miscounted by 4mil let alone 9. And if Blizzard had lost half their player base in 2yrs, we'd see action, such as server merges most likely, not to mention players noticing.
So in short, I'm always perplexed when people put FF14 up against Wow.
Edit: I also found this article from 2017 that says in Q4 of 2017 (Oct-Dec) Blizzard had 40mil active accounts across all their games. This is down from 2016 number of 41mil and 42mil earlier in 2017. Now we can't be sure where the losses came from, but let's say all 2mil are from WoW, that still means they have around 3mil active accounts. And we know not all of them came from WoW.
I guess WoW still lives. I don't know anyone who has played it in years except when they were real bored.
nagash said: I have to agree. Hopefully Ashes will fulfill our expectations of something new and interesting.
I hope Ashes can be built to play as smooth and optimized as WoW...but with their own unique gameplay and style.
Also, every game that was a self-proclaimed wow-killer, failed horribly or just became a bland/mediocre wow-clone.
So yeah, just focus on the style and gameplay that you want instead of worrying how many millions of players will be like HURDUR this did the wow thing and I liked it.