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How will Conjurers Work?

So i've pretty much read all there is to know about the archtypes and what interest me most are mage and summoner. I understand how secondary archtypes augument your primary. If I am going to be an archiwizard I more or less understand how it could go but how will a conjurer work? How does doubling down on summoner make you a conjurer? Do you summon more powerful minions or do your minions summon their own?

Pretty much i'm confused on the class.

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  • [...]
    Do you summon more powerful minions or do your minions summon their own?
    [...]  
    Summon summons that can summon more summons. Can the summoned summons which were summoned by summons also summon summons?

    Unfortunatly we don´t know much yet about the actual skills and augments. So no way to tell exactly how all classes are going to be.

    But we know that doubling down will strenghten your primary role.
    So summoner+summoner should be the most "summoniest" summoner. Just like tank+tank is the most "tankiest" tank.
    But what does that mean for the summoner? Maybe he has the most powerful summons or he can summon the most minions. While other classes with summoner may have weaker/less minions they could have more overall utility.
  • Augentier said:
    [...]
    Do you summon more powerful minions or do your minions summon their own?
    [...]  
    Summon summons that can summon more summons. Can the summoned summons which were summoned by summons also summon summons?

    Unfortunatly we don´t know much yet about the actual skills and augments. So no way to tell exactly how all classes are going to be.

    But we know that doubling down will strenghten your primary role.
    So summoner+summoner should be the most "summoniest" summoner. Just like tank+tank is the most "tankiest" tank.
    But what does that mean for the summoner? Maybe he has the most powerful summons or he can summon the most minions. While other classes with summoner may have weaker/less minions they could have more overall utility.
    Lol that was funny and a little confusing. But as to the second part. I know it will strengthen your role but i'm just very confused on how it would work. I guess I will just have to wait and see.
  • we dont know!
  • We don't know yet, unfortunately.  I would assume Conjurers will have the most powerful summons or perhaps be able to have two out at once. I'm leaning heavily towards the stronger summons. 
  • We don't have much info on classes right now unfortunately
  • LunarSky said:
    We don't know yet, unfortunately.  I would assume Conjurers will have the most powerful summons or perhaps be able to have two out at once. I'm leaning heavily towards the stronger summons. 
    The fact that necromancers a thing proves you wrong ^^
  • nagash said:
    LunarSky said:
    We don't know yet, unfortunately.  I would assume Conjurers will have the most powerful summons or perhaps be able to have two out at once. I'm leaning heavily towards the stronger summons. 
    The fact that necromancers a thing proves you wrong ^^

    Maybe conjurers can summon giant war golems while necromancers can just summon some average skeletons.

    But then again necromancers could maybe summon meat golems or undead dragons.
    I guess we have to wait a little longer to know more about all classes.
  • Augentier said:
    nagash said:
    LunarSky said:
    We don't know yet, unfortunately.  I would assume Conjurers will have the most powerful summons or perhaps be able to have two out at once. I'm leaning heavily towards the stronger summons. 
    The fact that necromancers a thing proves you wrong ^^

    Maybe conjurers can summon giant war golems while necromancers can just summon some average skeletons.

    But then again necromancers could maybe summon meat golems or undead dragons.
    I guess we have to wait a little longer to know more about all classes.
    As sure as death, as certain as the stars the undead shall rise

  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited November 2018
    nagash said:
    LunarSky said:
    We don't know yet, unfortunately.  I would assume Conjurers will have the most powerful summons or perhaps be able to have two out at once. I'm leaning heavily towards the stronger summons. 
    The fact that necromancers a thing proves you wrong ^^
    I would say that Necromancers will be more like cannonfodder type summoners. 
    It would be cool if you could summon an undead add, which would tankthe damage instead of the tank (the tank would still hold the aggro, but the add would "eat" all the damage until it died) I just cant see the necromancer to summon giant monsters(of course there are always the giant meat constructs or giants but that is another thing entirely), I always imagine them as the commanders of this HUGE crowd of skelletons or ghouls. xD

    It would be cool if Conjurers would summon arcane elementals or giant constructs.
    They could even focus on summoning things other then Monsters. Maybe they get the ability to summon walls or artificial weapons, which attack on their own (like in Guild Wars 2 with the Guardian Weapons)
  • Summoning it all up its unsummonable. But Siege golems and other various high end specific use summons could be useful.
  • Uzial said:
    Summoning it all up its unsummonable. But Siege golems and other various high end specific use summons could be useful.
    A group of summoners will be able to gather together and summon a more powerful summon together for sieges. Steven has let that nugget of information slip in the past on one of the live casts. 
  • Sintu said:
    Uzial said:
    Summoning it all up its unsummonable. But Siege golems and other various high end specific use summons could be useful.
    A group of summoners will be able to gather together and summon a more powerful summon together for sieges. Steven has let that nugget of information slip in the past on one of the live casts. 
    It was one of the better slips personally ^^
  • I really hope that conjurers are the best type of summoner. I want conjurer to have really strong summons and your useless without them. It would take a lot of skill to play them and thats something I look forward too.
  • I really hope that conjurers are the best type of summoner. I want conjurer to have really strong summons and your useless without them. It would take a lot of skill to play them and thats something I look forward too.
    Well it IS Summoner/Summoner so they should be pretty reliant on summons. :D
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited November 2018
    Damokles said:
    I really hope that conjurers are the best type of summoner. I want conjurer to have really strong summons and your useless without them. It would take a lot of skill to play them and thats something I look forward too.
    Well it IS Summoner/Summoner so they should be pretty reliant on summons. :D
    The air will buzz, monsters covered in slime and fuzz,
    And I'll be doing what every mage does when summoning...

    A wand in my hand, gathering more power than I can stand,
    Probably conquering all of the land with summoning.

    I'll finally see all my armies gathering like a storm,
    And find out what happens to a small village when it gets swarmed.

    And I can't wait to see what my guildmates all think of me,
    Just imagine, oh how powerful I'll be while summoning!

    Abra cadabra, allakazam kazoo!

    My magic and minions are both so intense,
    Put them together, chaos will commence!

    The rot of my enemies as they all turn to goo...

    People say summoning is only for suckers,
    But face me in battle and you're a dead... person.

    When a fight gets rough I will just summon more new friends,
    And hide behind their stalwart ranks until battle ends.

    Oh the soil will be red, with all the blood that was shed...
    After carnage has spread from all the undead I've summoned!
  • @Atama Thanks to you i now fear summoners.

    Also i kind of wonder how sieges will be if there are huge amounts of summoners on one side. If a summoner could have multiple minions and there are 200 summoners on one side. Suddenly there are 400 or 600 minions attacking?
    Even if summoners can´t have multiple minions. They can have siege golems. With 200 summoners there could be over 20 powerful siege golems attacking at once.
    Can summoners who summoned a siege golem have normal minions simultaneously. I remember that it was said that only one summoner controls the siege golem and the orthers can do other stuff.

    I´m just terrified of fighting against summoners right now. Thanks Atama!  
  • We may see node and racial (and perhaps) other impacts as well, though I do not think this is confirmed. 

    Orcs and elves may summon different creatures, and perhaps the node you are a citizen of may influence that, as in a Military node summoner may bring forth creatures better armed than a summoner from an Economic node.

    However, if you summon undead while attacking a Divine node, perhaps your summons will suffer a penalty.

    The multiple combinations of issues like these makes AoC fascinating!

    All the best, TT

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