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If AOC has "Fanservice" - Real question time
DrEpoch
Member, Alpha Two
Whether we have big explosions, cool looking armors to bob sliders, scantily-clad outfits (underclothed), and a few drops of sexualization, whether that's fitted armor, or undergarments. How far is too far? What do you think is adequate for an RPG?
Final Fantasy 14 Eorzea Collection?
How far is too far? What do you think is adequate for an RPG? FF14 levels of fanservice? or BDO?
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Final Fantasy 14 Eorzea Collection?
How far is too far? What do you think is adequate for an RPG? FF14 levels of fanservice? or BDO?
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ayyyeeeee
Either all characters get the same amount of skin-flashing, or just kindly be respectful and not put lingerie-d armor into the game at all.
A metal swimsuit is not practical.
This is a pretty good way to sum up how I feel about this as well. I've never been super concerned about how sexy people want to make themselves look because I'll just dress my character the way I want to. The only thing that bugs me is when the sexiness/reveal ratio is waaaay heavily skewed towards one gender. Let me see everyone lookin smexy or don't even bother programming/designing it in the first place.
The examples mentioned though, FFXIV I feel like has a better balance of gender sexiness, although still slightly skewed towards women. While BDO on the other hand is heavily skewed towards female sexiness with much fewer male options. The level of sexiness I felt was fine in both games, but like I said, let everybody have the opportunity to look sexy regardless of the gender they pick.
The only other thing I feel about this topic is I'm not really cool with full on nudity. I know it's been mentioned before that I don't think they're going in this direction for rating purposes, even though they've considered it, but I just don't get the appeal of it. We all know kids are going to play these games and it's like half don't need to/want to see that and the other half will constantly run around naked making lewd things happen.
A good recent comparison to draw was in WoW somewhat fairly recently (couple months back or so) they made your chestpiece able to be hidden, so basically it's just pants that you can't hide. Yet where it ends up is people fought that on the premise of "Oh well kids are going to just make their female characters topless." Yet when it came to be implemented it mostly affected male characters with very few female characters in game actually utilizing it. The reason for that being (mind you this is pure speculation based on observation) female characters could already do that sort of thing with a myriad of gear pieces in the game, and it appeared a lot more tasteful if you were running around in say, the Grizzly Jerkin chestpiece which achieved much of the same effect on a female character, but it wasn't just blatantly running around in a bra despite being very similar. Yet for male characters, you couldn't really do this before. So if you wanted to have like a Conan the Barbarian sort of thing going on, you weren't able to do it on a male character.
Allow both genders to experience the thing or don't basically. If you largely just allow it for female avatars in game then you kind of open the floodgates for all the nonsense crying about objectification. When it's even handed that argument can't exist and you can only blame individual players rather than a studio for how they choose to dress their characters but on that token, it's their character, not yours. They can do with it as they please and it doesn't affect you. As an aside, it was more frustrating in games before you had options to opt out of this through costumes, transmog/glamour, etc. So if your best in slot legs just happened to be a battle thong, you were stuck with it until a new gear piece arrived in the new tier of content. Now if that's not how you want your character looking you can get rid of it. The glory of costumes. This was also why I largely abstained from playing female characters in WoW, namely casters because some pieces of gear just looked pretty cringe to people who didn't play the game. I.E leveling a mage, using Black Mageweave Leggings which in game just appeared on female characters as a black pair of panties around level 40 because they have decent stats for leveling. Friend comes by and just sees me in a character that looks like she's in her underwear and probably thinks I'm oggling my character while I'm leveling an alt. So it kind of works both ways, most people I notice tend to avoid that if given the option and very few actually utilize it to make their character incredibly skimpy.
If we're going for a more inclusive MMO/MMO community then it has to be all-inclusive, not just catering to one troupe.
I want to see male dwarven fighters run around in man-thongs. Enemies will get an automatic -6 on hitchance
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No.
Like this:
Crudeness works around town, at the tavern, at the marketplace, or with the guildies. It does not work in dungeons, and feels too sexualized.
I would love to wear the Borat thong purely for the charisma modification.
2) Sexy armor could apply for cloth and maybe leather armour but if they apply it to chainmail or full plate it's when the immersion is lost
3) If there's going to be both extremes from oversexualized to full covered then it would be smart to fill all the in-between
With a quick inmersion in pinterest we all can find examples of characters of both genders that can look sexy/seductive/attractive in full cover clothes to the ones that look mighty and savage in revealing outfits
GENTLEMAN PLEASE. I spat my water when i saw the speedo.
Good thing that plate armor aint going to be too unpractical. hehe.
I would think that a bigger concern with high heels would be that you cant run in them or risk to break your ankles if you do tbh...
I could see having crafting based gear like this, but also farming based gear for on freeholds (if you do any farming there). I could even see having merchant based gear for city/metropolis node markets, potentially offering a reduction in taxes paid or something.
Not sure I'd want to go as far as Archeage though, where they had specific items to wear to get a bonus to sleeping.
Yeah, I agree.
On top of that, if they make it so that the gear is actually useful/needed, maybe has some form of specialty to it within a given profession and make it so it actually involves some investment, it could go a long way to encouraging people to specialize more rather than trying to be a jack-of-all-trades.
BDO does this with costumes, they give specific bonuses, so the blacksmith apron gives faster blacksmith crafting cooking apron gives faster cooking/more cooking exp. Pretty simple system and makes sense, they should not be behind and a paywall and it would be good in AoC.
Also any over-sexualized clothing should be a costume and not armor imo.
Lol, now im just wondering if Intrepid will have any.
I believe those are "Briefs" or could even say "Bike shorts"
Oh you will have ERP anywhere even if we have full armour its just the way of the world
I don’t know about you, but I find it infinitely easier to overlook a few people writing out their fantasies via text (which I’d be able to block), than it is to overlook a character’s asscheeks hanging out of their “clothes”