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Big guilds raiding servers
Leroher
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I guess a lot of you have seen Asmongolds vids about Ashes, saying he would come to the game with the viewers and be the Mayor of a sci node. That's a problem Steve already said it can't be helped (atm at least). But that's not my concern. My concern comes from the server capacity and extremely big guilds coming together. If (f.e.) Asmon's followers go to one server and let's say they are over 15k, how will they fit in the server, and worse, what are gonna do the few people on the server that are not part of the guild?
This is ofc the extreme case scenario, where a full server is occupied with one community and no one is gonna fight against the other. But this concern also applies to big guilds (not that big) that can outnumber other smaller ones making alliances. Because as I know, there will be two types of guilds, one with a few people but big buffs, and other that exchanges those buffs to make the guild bigger. What if hella people just make alliances and break the balance?
Am I making sense?
Thanks in advance.
Lero
This is ofc the extreme case scenario, where a full server is occupied with one community and no one is gonna fight against the other. But this concern also applies to big guilds (not that big) that can outnumber other smaller ones making alliances. Because as I know, there will be two types of guilds, one with a few people but big buffs, and other that exchanges those buffs to make the guild bigger. What if hella people just make alliances and break the balance?
Am I making sense?
Thanks in advance.
Lero
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Or the big guild and node leaders will create false content to keep the players active and involved. Like they do in Eve.
I agree. I will go no where near a server with a content creator on it or anyone live streaming. I have no aspirations to be twitch famous.
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/44956
The world will be dynamic. Yes, initially when a 15k guild joins the server, it will be boring. But that boredom will soon come to pass. Guilds that are that large, especially streamer guilds, will have a ton of drama going on. Drama is fun, it will create change.
Also, a server has 50k players. Yes, 15k is almost 30% of the population of a server, but remember, the remaining 35k can still oppose the other guild.
True, I was wrong here, I thought that there were only 10k on the server, I guess it will be 50k with only 10k playing at the same time.
And yeah, I thought about the drama too, it will make things fun anyways, and also at least they would compete between them to see who has bigger "keyboard".
On server size, Steven talked about servers having 50,000 total players and 8,000 to 12,000 concurrent players. The 50k sounds like a cap; unclear whether the concurrent player number is a cap or just an estimate. I'd expect there to be far more players active at launch on each server.
40-50% should be for pre-register guilds.
In Ragnarok online the worst times were when your guild dominated the others. Fun comes mostly from even fights while stomping your enemy become stale really fast.
Which is why being the worst player from the get go and getting Corrupted as fast as possible is valuable.
Especially Asmonbald. There aren't factions so anyone can do just about anything. I'd imagine that his own fans would make a Revolution of Asmonbald guild that is just as big as his own guild to oppose him.
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Plus there is also the consideration of guild skills. If you always go for max size, you will be missing out on the skills smaller guilds will be able to take advantage of. Yes I know that zerg > skill most of the time but again...boring.
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He will most likely join a server with other streamers like shroud, summit, tim and mcconnell. Its going to be a lag fest.
I didn't know there was a maximum of 3 alliances. In this case, I don't think it will be that much of a problem, and as some of the comments said, even some guys from Asmon's community will probably antagonize him to bring some fun to the server.
First of all, if he gets 15000 people to join into a server and play "let's go zerg around"....I would be happy for IS to accept at LEAST $150000 for their subscriptions assuming they only play that month and don't buy anything else.
Second, I don't think a zerg would do much other than lag everyone out and spam chat at this point. Guild size and alliance limitations will help against this kind of garbage.
Third, Some guilds (like mine) will do everything in our power to prevent zergs from being successful. If there is a guild of 100 taking over an area, we will be focused on taking down the 3 guild alliance of 900+. I prefer quality organization and meaningful memories from my MMO's and taking down the giant sounds like my kind of fun.
I'll go purple to slay a bunch of zombies who follow streamers around.
Me when the server starts lagging - "Rally behind me and unsheath your blades!"
it would be a node event "The coming of the stream"
You may even convince me to go red for that...
here is the interesting part. the disgruntled soldiers of big guilds will be free to create alts to grief their own guild. Oh the drama that will unfold!
Leave them to fuck around on their server. Don't merge and bank the cash they will pay each month?
New players can just dodge that very server.
Unless someone staged a coup....
Viva la Revolution