Can crafters name the legendary items they craft?

Say, in a usual mmo where most top tier gears are boss drops, it makes sense that the boss suddenly drops a sword named Excalibur. But it seems weird to me that a crafter would discover a "recipe of Excalibur" and be able to churn out as many excaliburs as he wants (as long as he has the legendary mats).

Instead it seems more natural to me that the weaponsmith would acquire a "recipe of legendary elemental long sword", throw in the right materials and craft a "legendary holy long sword", and name it Excalibur or Durendal or Kusanagi or Grasscutter or Occam's Razor upon completion.

Judging from the wiki https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Legendary, my guess is legendary items would be extremely rare, and hopefully we won't run into an "everybody's trying to name the sword they craft Excalibur" problem.

Not sure whether this would be hard to implement, and whether it's even worth implementing. Just thought it would be a cool idea. Thoughts?

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daveywavey

It's a fun idea, for sure, and would be good from an RP point of view. I guess you'd have to be careful who you got to make your weapons. You wouldn't want mine, for example, cos you might find some names you'd rather not see......

Ashbringer88

Wow, now that would be fucken cool. Wow... That would be the coolest thing ever if you could forge and name a legendary. epic.

winner909098

Ah yes, I can see somebody getting murdered by occams razor already...

Voidwalkers

daveywavey wrote: »

You wouldn't want mine, for example, cos you might find some names you'd rather not see......

Leave it at the unnamed state, up your price, and sell the naming rights along with your legendary sword

Ahhhhh it just got more interesting now... Aim for maximum profit? Or feed your ego? (being able to name a legendary sword, or "be the legendary smith who crafted Excalibur") Chooooose!!

Or you can always prank your guild leader and name the legendary katana you've crafted (with his mats of coz) for him "ChunChunMaru"

... if you're sure your guild leader isn't gonna kick you and list you as KoS, that is.

Damokles

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daveywavey

Damokles wrote: »

@Nagash 's Folly
Type: Staff
Stats: Strength, Agility, Endurance
Special Trait: Heal all allies AND enemies for x amount every 3sec over the next 15sec.
'Nagash tried to bring upon us a world of death, so we took his staff and made it create a world of life.'

daveywavey

Voidwalkers wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

You wouldn't want mine, for example, cos you might find some names you'd rather not see......

Leave it at the unnamed state, up your price, and sell the naming rights along with your legendary sword
Ahhhhh it just got more interesting now... Aim for maximum profit? Or feed your ego? (being able to name a legendary sword, or "be the legendary smith who crafted Excalibur") Chooooose!!

"Daveywavey's Pokeywokey Sword of Jabbywabbing!"

Nagash

Damokles wrote: »

@Nagash 's Folly
Type: Staff
Stats: Strength, Agility, Endurance
Special Trait: Heal all allies AND enemies for x amount every 3sec over the next 15sec.
'Nagash tried to bring upon us a world of death, so we took his staff and made it create a world of life.'

You twat

Marcet

I think people would just troll too much with the names...

Same with naming your tavern

sunfrog

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Damokles

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Damokles

Seriously though, even though its a really cool idea I would bet that they wont do that.

Even with text filters, there are just too many unimaginative people around.
I myself would be tempted to make 5 legendary swords each a little better then the other while naming them Excalibur vI, Excalibur vII, Excalibur vIII, Excalibur vIV, etc. :'D

Sathrago

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CptBrownBeard

It has been stated that crafter's names will be present on their creations, though. Maybe not quite what you want, but a decent middle ground, methinks.

daveywavey

CptBrownBeard wrote: »

It has been stated that crafter's names will be present on their creations, though. Maybe not quite what you want, but a decent middle ground, methinks.

Yeah, ESO did that, too. I sort of want that sword now, though.....

Sathrago

daveywavey wrote: »

CptBrownBeard wrote: »

It has been stated that crafter's names will be present on their creations, though. Maybe not quite what you want, but a decent middle ground, methinks.

Yeah, ESO did that, too. I sort of want that sword now, though.....

Albion online also does this but there's much less meaning in that game since almost every item crafted is bulk or trashed soon after.

maouw

winner909098 wrote: »

Ah yes, I can see somebody getting murdered by occams razor already...

AHAHAH
Yes Please! You'd be my go to for weapon names.

What if the first person to craft the item gets to name it - that would be much easier to monitor.
EDIT: as in - this name becomes the item's in-game name permanently for everone else who crafts it.

Voidwalkers

Forgot to give it a try myself:

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CptBrownBeard wrote: »

It has been stated that crafter's names will be present on their creations, though. Maybe not quite what you want, but a decent middle ground, methinks.

ya I saw that on the wiki too, but was thinking if we can go one step further on legendaries ...

Marcet wrote: »

I think people would just troll too much with the names...

Same with naming your tavern

There definitely needs to be some naming policies / restrictions in place. There'll probably be restrictions for character & guild names anyway.

Damokles wrote: »

Seriously though, even though its a really cool idea I would bet that they wont do that.

Even with text filters, there are just too many unimaginative people around.
I myself would be tempted to make 5 legendary swords each a little better then the other while naming them Excalibur vI, Excalibur vII, Excalibur vIII, Excalibur vIV, etc. :'D

yes ... although I think it depends on how rare legendaries end up being. My impression is that they're very very rare, and are results of tremendous player efforts that they deserve to be part of the Server History. In that case ...

1. The guild that gathered all the necessary mats would probably think thrice before hiring someone to craft the item anyway, and they would probably have thought of a good-enough name already.
2. If a single crafter is dedicated enough to acquire the mats for multiple legendary items and decides to name them Excalibur 1~6 ... may be that's just how things should be on that server

. Or spam that master crafter on your server with better naming ideas

3. Along the same line as 2, that dedicated crafter probably deserves the right to troll his own effort and name his sword kjaiegj;aiegj;ilae. But then he should understand why it sells for less than the Occam's Razor the other guy's crafted, despite having nearly the same stats.

maouw wrote: »

winner909098 wrote: »

Ah yes, I can see somebody getting murdered by occams razor already...

AHAHAH
Yes Please! You'd be my go to for weapon names.

What if the first person to craft the item gets to name it - that would be much easier to monitor.
EDIT: as in - this name becomes the item's in-game name permanently for everone else who crafts it.

But wouldn't that affect the recipe of other crafters? Imagine ...
One moment before you're celebrating with your guildies because after months of efforts, you are about to craft a legendary sword and name it after your guild. The next thing you know is you've just crafted "Voidwalker's sword, 'I win' ", just because I happened to have crafted my legendary sword a minute earlier.
Oh the frustration, and tears, and calls for KoS ...

On the recipes page https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Recipes, it says the devs have "talked about" including a royalties / patenting system. In that case may be it's a good idea to let crafters name the rare+ recipes they discover and have a patent for.
Although in that case I wonder what can stop everyone from naming their mediocre (rare) swords excaliburs ...
May be tie the player-recipe-names with the duration of the patent? While the patent is valid, it can be "Muramasa version 2.46 beta special" and once the patent expires, it's just "mithril long sword"

daveywavey

maouw wrote: »

What if the first person to craft the item gets to name it - that would be much easier to monitor.
EDIT: as in - this name becomes the item's in-game name permanently for everyone else who crafts it.

So, EVERYBODY on the server has to use "Daveywavey's Pokeywokey Sword of Jabbywabbing".......?!

Alyxavior

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