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Bard "Weapons" and other obscure ideas.

ValentineValentine Member, Pioneer, Kickstarter
in General Discussion
Having simple lutes and violins etc is probably fine for early gear but lets make sure there is something neat at the end of it all!

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I'm hoping to see something reflective of the magical nature bards seem to be having in Ashes, what do you all think?

Comments

  • DamoklesDamokles Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited November 2020
    I dont want such instruments in the game.


    Example for an epic Lute I would actually appreciate:
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    This is a Harp skin for Staffs which I absolutely love in Guild Wars 2:
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  • McShaveMcShave Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I'm pretty sure there wont be instrument type weapons in the game, but these would look badass during player's abilities. Remember the weapons won't be used for player abilities, so the bard will be pulling these instruments out of there butt when using spells.
  • ValentineValentine Member, Pioneer, Kickstarter
    McShave wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure there wont be instrument type weapons in the game, but these would look badass during player's abilities. Remember the weapons won't be used for player abilities, so the bard will be pulling these instruments out of there butt when using spells.

    Are you sure you don't want to be bonked in the head by an instrument in-game? =p
  • CrosimCrosim Member, Alpha Two
    This thread makes it really hard to not just post the top dozen ridiculous hunting horns from monster hunter. xD

  • DamoklesDamokles Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Crosim wrote: »
    This thread makes it really hard to not just post the top dozen ridiculous hunting horns from monster hunter. xD

    I will do it for you if you are not Bard enough.
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  • maouwmaouw Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited November 2020
    This one always makes me laugh - coz it's a cross between a microphone and a bagpipe AS IF BAGPIPES NEED A MICROPHONE.
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    I wish I were deep and tragic
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Flute blowgun.
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  • AtamaAtama Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Just remember that weapons are independent of class. If you have a magic lute, it can be used by bards or mages or tanks.

    Damn, now I want to be a tank who fights with a set of bagpipes. Talk about generating aggro!
     
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  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
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    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • maouwmaouw Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    @daveywavey oh yes, a casual attack from the local bard pianist. :D:D
    I wish I were deep and tragic
  • SathragoSathrago Member, Alpha Two
    I'm not sure about weapons but it would be really cool if the bard/summoner could have an ability that summons a spiritual avatar that floats above the bard, extending the range of his buffs or auras. Think of it like a larger reflection of the bard that is playing music the whole time it is out aiding allies and debuffing enemies.
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  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    I'm still hoping bards don't need to be tied to music.

    I want a spoken word bard!
  • VhaeyneVhaeyne Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Minstrel

    Looking at Bard/Bard for the first time myself. It feels like they with all of the other classes, they are leaving it pretty open to interpretation.

    "Bards may be able to play musical instruments, such as Flutes and Bagpipes."

    That is the key point I was looking for. It says nothing about bards having special weapons.
    Personally I don't think they should be making a bunch of special weapons for classes. I feel like it is a design trap, especially in a game that does not tie your class to your weapon. Weapons should be tied to races and cultures instead.

    I could see them doing music themed weapons as cosmetics, they seem to be having a good time with the cosmetics designs.
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    This is my personal feedback, shared to help the game thrive in its niche.
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    edited November 2020
    I see the musical instrument thing more as a temporary summon, rather than a persistent weapon. So, you might summon a flute for 5 seconds that temporarily takes the place of your weapon while it gives its buff, and then disappears again.

    What I don't want is to have to stand in the middle playing the bagpipes for an entire raid boss! :p
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • SathragoSathrago Member, Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    I'm still hoping bards don't need to be tied to music.

    I want a spoken word bard!

    Beatbox people to death
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  • Sov54Sov54 Member


    Support is my favourite role, but man, I hope I don't have to pull a flute mid-combat, that would be anti-climatic to me.

    I just wanna do some war dances, please!
  • CrosimCrosim Member, Alpha Two
    Sathrago wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    I'm still hoping bards don't need to be tied to music.

    I want a spoken word bard!

    Beatbox people to death

    Don't you mean 'Beetbox', or did you turnip to this thread forgetting the other?

    Hopefully we can see some leeks on this soon.
  • SathragoSathrago Member, Alpha Two
    Crosim wrote: »
    Sathrago wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    I'm still hoping bards don't need to be tied to music.

    I want a spoken word bard!

    Beatbox people to death

    Don't you mean 'Beetbox', or did you turnip to this thread forgetting the other?

    Hopefully we can see some leeks on this soon.

    I'm Crosim' you off my list of friendlies.
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  • CrosimCrosim Member, Alpha Two
    Sathrago wrote: »
    Crosim wrote: »
    Sathrago wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    I'm still hoping bards don't need to be tied to music.

    I want a spoken word bard!

    Beatbox people to death

    Don't you mean 'Beetbox', or did you turnip to this thread forgetting the other?

    Hopefully we can see some leeks on this soon.

    I'm Crosim' you off my list of friendlies.

    What if the spoken word bard uses puns for buffs?
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    edited November 2020
    Crosim wrote: »
    Sathrago wrote: »
    Crosim wrote: »
    Sathrago wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    I'm still hoping bards don't need to be tied to music.

    I want a spoken word bard!

    Beatbox people to death

    Don't you mean 'Beetbox', or did you turnip to this thread forgetting the other?

    Hopefully we can see some leeks on this soon.

    I'm Crosim' you off my list of friendlies.

    What if the spoken word bard uses puns for buffs?

    Then, we're all going the Musical Bard route.
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • AtamaAtama Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    I'm still hoping bards don't need to be tied to music.

    I want a spoken word bard!
    A beatnik bard! You wear all black with your combat beret, and snap your fingers with one hand while taking a drag off a cigarette with the other. You get extra buffs with bongos.
     
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  • CrosimCrosim Member, Alpha Two
    I want an epic bard weapon called pundamoneum that deals extra damage to music bards.
  • DamoklesDamokles Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    I'm still hoping bards don't need to be tied to music.

    I want a spoken word bard!

    They mentioned Word of Power bard mechanics or Poetry etc as the channel for the bards magic.
  • ShoklenShoklen Member, Alpha Two
    I want to push around a grand piano; up and over rocky hills and down into caves... Come on guys wait up!
  • maouwmaouw Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Shoklen wrote: »
    I want to push around a grand piano; up and over rocky hills and down into caves... Come on guys wait up!

    Have a dedicated caravan for transporting the piano, with a 5 minute set up time to offload it.
    You could put your tailcoat in there too.
    You'd be one of THOSE bards.
    I wish I were deep and tragic
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Sathrago wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    I'm still hoping bards don't need to be tied to music.

    I want a spoken word bard!

    Beatbox people to death

    I'd be down for this - though my hope is that there is an option for poetry, or reciting an epic/stage play.
    Damokles wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    I'm still hoping bards don't need to be tied to music.

    I want a spoken word bard!

    They mentioned Word of Power bard mechanics or Poetry etc as the channel for the bards magic.
    This is good, I just hope it is more than one or two abilities.

    If you google "the bard", the results are not about a musician at all - you get Shakespeare, a writer.

    The original notion of a bard in an adventuring party in a fantasy setting (as far as I can tell) was that it was someone coming along to record the heroic deeds being performed. Basically, writing.

    To me, that means the main entertainment skill a bard needs is the ability to write. Singing is also fine - but a bard that just plays an instrement is not able to accurately record those heroic deeds they are there to record - which to me means such a bard is straight up unable to perform the actual original function of their existence.

    Obviously, there is no easy game system to suggest that a bard is recording what their party/raid are doing. To me, the one thing that a game can do to offer a suggestion of this notion is to make it so a bard is able to be played without needing music or a musical instrument at all.

    I mean, there should also be the option to use music - I'm just saying there should be the option to not use it, as well.
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    edited November 2020
    Go to Wandering Mist's "Design Your Own Spells" thread, and share your own ideas for the Bard skills!
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • AtamaAtama Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Shoklen wrote: »
    I want to push around a grand piano; up and over rocky hills and down into caves... Come on guys wait up!

    Over hill, over dale,
    We will hit the dusty trail,
    And those Pianos go rolling along.
     
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