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Prices

One would think with the world gone tits up, re Covid etc, prices for these games would reflect that, but nope, cheapest version of this game is $75 crazy.

|But then again that's just imo
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  • SathragoSathrago Member, Alpha Two
    lol. You're not even buying the game tho.
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  • TudorRebelTudorRebel Member
    edited November 2020
    Sathrago wrote: »
    lol. You're not even buying the game tho.

    Not sure what difference that makes, but there is a very good chance I will buy the game, unaware where you getting your info from?
  • WarthWarth Member, Alpha Two
    edited November 2020
    @TudorRebel

    that's incorrect. The game costs 15$ a month upon release. Probably cheaper for multi month subscriptions.

    But no, you aren't buying the game. The game itself doesn't cost anything. You buy monthly access to it, the same way you'd buy monthly access to a gym or a source of online media.
  • SathragoSathrago Member, Alpha Two
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  • LieutenantToastLieutenantToast Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited November 2020
    Hiya! As some helpful folks in this thread have already mentioned and linked, Ashes of Creation will be a subscription-based game with no box cost after launch, where the only items available in the Shop will be cosmetic ones (no P2W).

    The packs currently available in our Shop get you some bonus perks like guaranteed early access to testing, Embers (shop currency), subscription time, and cosmetics - we understand if those early packs aren't for everyone, and hope that you'll join us once the game launches so you can play on a subscription basis! <3
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  • CptBrownBeardCptBrownBeard Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited November 2020

    The packs currently available in our Shop get you some bonus perks like guaranteed early access to testing, in-game currency, subscription time, and cosmetics - we understand if those early packs aren't for everyone, and hope that you'll join us once the game launches so you can play on a subscription basis! <3

    Just to head off any future usage of the bolded phrase in ill-informed arguments about P2W, this is referring to the Ember coins and monster tokens used for the cosmetic shop and events, respectively. NOT for in-game currency like gold for use between players and NPC shops. Correct, @LieutenantToast?

    Might be unnecessary to point out, but better safe than sorry, I think.
  • LieutenantToastLieutenantToast Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Amended my post accordingly to make it more clear :smiley: this does indeed refer to Embers, the currency that would be used in the in-game Shop - NOT direct in-game currency like gold per se.
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  • Lore DynamicLore Dynamic Member, Alpha Two
    If you break down the prices of the Pre-Order packs and really calculate the value of each item offered there-in; I think most would discover that it's really an amazing deal! You'll be pre-paying for future subscription time, getting pre-paid Ember currency (for the cosmetic Shop), unique Skins and the best over all: EARLY access to the game and the ability to HELP find bugs and make the game great at launch!

    If you subtract the cash-value of the Sub-time, the Embers and the Skin...that's what you are actually left paying. Now whatever that cash value is; THAT is the price you'll be paying for early access. And if you purchased the Voyager or Voyager-Plus; you're early access starts at the Alpha 2 level. Then you'll have Beta 1 & 2! Just think about the potential months & months of extra playing time that you'll get! Well before anyone else does at the retail level!

    I'm super stoked for Alpha 2. ^_^
    I like to look at the Voyager-Plus package as: Early access to Ashes of Creation. And everything else in the pack being the icing on the proverbial cake. NOM-NOM!


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  • MiinstrelMiinstrel Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Personally I find the cosmetic pre-order items to be super expensive. I mean, $20 for a mount skin? That's... a lot. I get that it's basically the only revenue stream right now keeping the entire studio alive to make this a reality for the community, but seems steep.

    ... not that that stopped me from buying the maple leaf winged drake this month which looks SICK. But still.
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    Miinstrel wrote: »
    ... not that that stopped me from buying the maple leaf winged drake this month which looks SICK. But still.

    Something's worth what someone will pay for it.

    And you paid it!
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • TudorRebelTudorRebel Member
    edited November 2020
    Warth wrote: »
    @TudorRebel

    that's incorrect. The game costs 15$ a month upon release. Probably cheaper for multi month subscriptions.

    But no, you aren't buying the game. The game itself doesn't cost anything. You buy monthly access to it, the same way you'd buy monthly access to a gym or a source of online media.

    Ahh kk sorry I was talking about the Pre order bits, saying that, I was wrong. cheers for replies.
  • FuryBladeborneFuryBladeborne Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Miinstrel wrote: »
    Personally I find the cosmetic pre-order items to be super expensive. I mean, $20 for a mount skin? That's... a lot. I get that it's basically the only revenue stream right now keeping the entire studio alive to make this a reality for the community, but seems steep.
    Ashes is fully funded through launch with $30+ million already set aside. Buying cosmetics is optional but it is not necessary for the game to launch.

  • NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    do your research.

    You would be surprised how often I ask the same thing
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  • If you break down the prices of the Pre-Order packs and really calculate the value of each item offered there-in; I think most would discover that it's really an amazing deal! You'll be pre-paying for future subscription time, getting pre-paid Ember currency (for the cosmetic Shop), unique Skins and the best over all: EARLY access to the game and the ability to HELP find bugs and make the game great at launch!

    If you subtract the cash-value of the Sub-time, the Embers and the Skin...that's what you are actually left paying. Now whatever that cash value is; THAT is the price you'll be paying for early access. And if you purchased the Voyager or Voyager-Plus; you're early access starts at the Alpha 2 level. Then you'll have Beta 1 & 2! Just think about the potential months & months of extra playing time that you'll get! Well before anyone else does at the retail level!

    I'm super stoked for Alpha 2. ^_^
    I like to look at the Voyager-Plus package as: Early access to Ashes of Creation. And everything else in the pack being the icing on the proverbial cake. NOM-NOM!

    You missing the point, times are hard now for a lot of people, (no I'm not one of them as own a small company), although the value may be great, I think these prices are high, but everyone has their own opinion
  • Nagash wrote: »
    do your research.

    You would be surprised how often I ask the same thing

    But then people like yourselves are normally toxic for the game, if you don't like the thread just move on.

    I have played MMO for over 30 years now, seen your type in everyone of them, thankfully you always the minority, unfortunately a very vocal minority
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    edited November 2020
    TudorRebel wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    do your research.

    You would be surprised how often I ask the same thing

    But then people like yourselves are normally toxic for the game, if you don't like the thread just move on.

    I have played MMO for over 30 years now, seen your type in everyone of them, thankfully you always the minority, unfortunately a very vocal minority

    You've been playing MMO's since 1990?

    Something doesn't quite add up there.
  • NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited November 2020
    TudorRebel wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    do your research.

    You would be surprised how often I ask the same thing

    But then people like yourselves are normally toxic for the game, if you don't like the thread just move on.

    I have played MMO for over 30 years now, seen your type in everyone of them, thankfully you always the minority, unfortunately a very vocal minority

    And what is my type? The guy who does research?
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  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    TudorRebel wrote: »
    You missing the point, times are hard now for a lot of people, (no I'm not one of them as own a small company), although the value may be great, I think these prices are high, but everyone has their own opinion

    So, don't buy a pre-order box-set, and just wait for release. Times may be better in 2-3 years when this comes out. You don't HAVE to join in the Alpha tests right now.
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • daveywavey wrote: »
    TudorRebel wrote: »
    You missing the point, times are hard now for a lot of people, (no I'm not one of them as own a small company), although the value may be great, I think these prices are high, but everyone has their own opinion

    So, don't buy a pre-order box-set, and just wait for release. Times may be better in 2-3 years when this comes out. You don't HAVE to join in the Alpha tests right now.

    Surely this game will be out before that i thought it was slated for a release this year?
    >:)
  • maouwmaouw Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    TudorRebel wrote: »
    daveywavey wrote: »
    TudorRebel wrote: »
    You missing the point, times are hard now for a lot of people, (no I'm not one of them as own a small company), although the value may be great, I think these prices are high, but everyone has their own opinion

    So, don't buy a pre-order box-set, and just wait for release. Times may be better in 2-3 years when this comes out. You don't HAVE to join in the Alpha tests right now.

    Surely this game will be out before that i thought it was slated for a release this year?
    >:)

    No way, my dude.

    Please take a closer look at the release schedule here and guestimate accordingly:
    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
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  • maouw wrote: »
    TudorRebel wrote: »
    daveywavey wrote: »
    TudorRebel wrote: »
    You missing the point, times are hard now for a lot of people, (no I'm not one of them as own a small company), although the value may be great, I think these prices are high, but everyone has their own opinion

    So, don't buy a pre-order box-set, and just wait for release. Times may be better in 2-3 years when this comes out. You don't HAVE to join in the Alpha tests right now.

    Surely this game will be out before that i thought it was slated for a release this year?
    >:)

    No way, my dude.

    Please take a closer look at the release schedule here and guestimate accordingly:
    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule

    If they didn't research in the first place, giving them something else to research is probably wasting your time...
  • DamoklesDamokles Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    TudorRebel wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    do your research.

    You would be surprised how often I ask the same thing

    But then people like yourselves are normally toxic for the game, if you don't like the thread just move on.

    I have played MMO for over 30 years now, seen your type in everyone of them, thankfully you always the minority, unfortunately a very vocal minority

    MMO's are only a real thing since 1995 with the release of Meridian 59.
    @Nagash is one of the most patient forum members i actually know, please dont start throwing around accusations...
    I dont see you crying that WoW should decrease the price of its next release or any of the other released games going down with their price.

    Ashes itself has NO BOX PRICE. NO ONE FORCES YOU TO BUY SH*T. IF YOU HAE THE MONEY, THEN FINE SUPPORT THE CREATORS AND GET SOME NICE SKINS. IF NOT, THEN WAIT FOR THE GAME TO BE RELEASED AND ONLY PAY THE MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION.

    My god, I see people like you in every forum, but I get fucking angry all the same...
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  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Damokles wrote: »
    My god, I see people like you in every forum, but I get fucking angry all the same...
    I'm honestly wondering if they got me and Nagash confused somehow...
  • NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    Damokles wrote: »
    My god, I see people like you in every forum, but I get fucking angry all the same...
    I'm honestly wondering if they got me and Nagash confused somehow...

    hahaha well we do post a lot on the forum so maybe :D
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  • Lore DynamicLore Dynamic Member, Alpha Two
    TudorRebel wrote: »

    You missing the point, times are hard now for a lot of people, (no I'm not one of them as own a small company), although the value may be great, I think these prices are high, but everyone has their own opinion

    I understand. General financial problems abound for a vast majority of people. Especially in light of the Covid-19 pandemic. I, myself, was laid-off from my position with a company that I had worked loyally for, for 16 years. And then I couldn't get work afterwards for some time, because no one was hiring. Because of the pandemic.

    But, back to the point- No one has to purchase the Pre-Order packs to play Ashes of Creation. They are a vanity purchase only.

    You don't even have to buy the game itself. If I'm understanding this correctly, simply paying $15 a month lets you escape earth-reality for a month to enjoy Verra instead:

    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Subscription_model



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  • DamoklesDamokles Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Nagash wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    Damokles wrote: »
    My god, I see people like you in every forum, but I get fucking angry all the same...
    I'm honestly wondering if they got me and Nagash confused somehow...

    hahaha well we do post a lot on the forum so maybe :D

    You know, every time someone comes and posts something.... lets call it "different" (you know what i mean)... I just imagine a knight riding by and decapitating them verbally with a warhammer. I never found a fitting gif sadly :/
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  • SathragoSathrago Member, Alpha Two
    edited November 2020
    Damokles wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    Damokles wrote: »
    My god, I see people like you in every forum, but I get fucking angry all the same...
    I'm honestly wondering if they got me and Nagash confused somehow...

    hahaha well we do post a lot on the forum so maybe :D

    You know, every time someone comes and posts something.... lets call it "different" (you know what i mean)... I just imagine a knight riding by and decapitating them verbally with a warhammer. I never found a fitting gif sadly :/

    Well this was my first thought but the message, I feel, is the same.

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  • NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Damokles wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    Damokles wrote: »
    My god, I see people like you in every forum, but I get fucking angry all the same...
    I'm honestly wondering if they got me and Nagash confused somehow...

    hahaha well we do post a lot on the forum so maybe :D

    You know, every time someone comes and posts something.... lets call it "different" (you know what i mean)... I just imagine a knight riding by and decapitating them verbally with a warhammer. I never found a fitting gif sadly :/


    Does this work

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  • DamoklesDamokles Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Nagash wrote: »
    Damokles wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    Damokles wrote: »
    My god, I see people like you in every forum, but I get fucking angry all the same...
    I'm honestly wondering if they got me and Nagash confused somehow...

    hahaha well we do post a lot on the forum so maybe :D

    You know, every time someone comes and posts something.... lets call it "different" (you know what i mean)... I just imagine a knight riding by and decapitating them verbally with a warhammer. I never found a fitting gif sadly :/


    Does this work

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    YES!
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