Josie1577 wrote: » My worst nightmare would be that there will be to many cosmetic items for sale and mounts for sale. this is not including holiday specials. That's different I get it once a year fun little mount or hat here and there for like 5 bucks or something, but If they release mounts like that cancer causing game from blizzard and sell them for like $25 I will be furious with this game. I mean leave the mounts for people who deserve them. I am also not counting the Kickstarter stuff or voyager packs to help support game development but once the game launches THATS IT no more cosmetic gear for sale. All armor, weapons and mounts should be earned or crafted. If they have a store it should be for something like furniture or something innocent that is not to much of a big deal. But watch out DEVS, if you mess up by adding to many cosmetics crap in the game for the sake of profit YOU WILL RUIN the game's progression and sense of accomplishment for end game armor when fucking BILLY with his mommy's credit card can get something far better and cooler looking. If you must do something with the store then do actual store items like RL shirts and stuff for us players to support the game but please for the love of all that is holy DO NOT SELL IN GAME GEAR OR ITEMS or your game will fail in the long term. SELL real life items to us players - Gaming mouse, keyboard, cloths or something with ashes of creation branding. That's it, you get your money we get our untainted game plus cool merch, easy everybody wins.
Tyranthraxus wrote: » Have to fully disagree. Any Cash Shop should only be cosmetics. Since there will be variants of every set attainable by in-game activity (and because Steven Sharif has specifically stated they are trying to reserve the "best"-looking variants as in-game attainable), it just feels like you're not doing research before posting about such a concern. Some people IRL are rich; they'll be better dressed than you, and look way cooler while out-and-about, in the IRL world. Do you really thing that a pre-existing society like Sanctus won't have upperclassmen? Wouldn't it only make sense that the upper class and the wealthy of Sanctus might also be making the pilgrimage to Verra - and thus look better than you, doing it?
ClintHardwood wrote: » I don't care if they sell skins. Please, Intrepid, sell all the skins you want. As long as the cash shop doesn't affect the gameplay, make all the money you need. Cheers.
maouw wrote: » Sure, there's loss of visual progression - I just feel it's worth the extra income stream and accomodating to whales who WANT to spend more and get something for it - without compromising on functional progression.
Grimfaldra wrote: » I would rather put it this way: As long as I cannot buy stuff that totally outclasses all items I can earn in game (in terms of looks/visual effects), I don't mind cosmetics. If they don't take away ingame achievement, there is nothing wrong for ppl who have the cash to spend the cash.
Talents wrote: » Josie1577 wrote: » My worst nightmare would be that there will be to many cosmetic items for sale and mounts for sale. this is not including holiday specials. That's different I get it once a year fun little mount or hat here and there for like 5 bucks or something, but If they release mounts like that cancer causing game from blizzard and sell them for like $25 I will be furious with this game. I mean leave the mounts for people who deserve them. I am also not counting the Kickstarter stuff or voyager packs to help support game development but once the game launches THATS IT no more cosmetic gear for sale. All armor, weapons and mounts should be earned or crafted. If they have a store it should be for something like furniture or something innocent that is not to much of a big deal. But watch out DEVS, if you mess up by adding to many cosmetics crap in the game for the sake of profit YOU WILL RUIN the game's progression and sense of accomplishment for end game armor when fucking BILLY with his mommy's credit card can get something far better and cooler looking. If you must do something with the store then do actual store items like RL shirts and stuff for us players to support the game but please for the love of all that is holy DO NOT SELL IN GAME GEAR OR ITEMS or your game will fail in the long term. SELL real life items to us players - Gaming mouse, keyboard, cloths or something with ashes of creation branding. That's it, you get your money we get our untainted game plus cool merch, easy everybody wins. They already plan to sell costumes/mount skins/pet skins/freehold skins etc. on the store when the game launches, it isn't exclusive to the pre-launch packs. If you're someone that cares that much about "visual progression" then that's not a focus of this game.
Josie1577 wrote: » Grimfaldra wrote: » I would rather put it this way: As long as I cannot buy stuff that totally outclasses all items I can earn in game (in terms of looks/visual effects), I don't mind cosmetics. If they don't take away ingame achievement, there is nothing wrong for ppl who have the cash to spend the cash. Talents wrote: » Josie1577 wrote: » My worst nightmare would be that there will be to many cosmetic items for sale and mounts for sale. this is not including holiday specials. That's different I get it once a year fun little mount or hat here and there for like 5 bucks or something, but If they release mounts like that cancer causing game from blizzard and sell them for like $25 I will be furious with this game. I mean leave the mounts for people who deserve them. I am also not counting the Kickstarter stuff or voyager packs to help support game development but once the game launches THATS IT no more cosmetic gear for sale. All armor, weapons and mounts should be earned or crafted. If they have a store it should be for something like furniture or something innocent that is not to much of a big deal. But watch out DEVS, if you mess up by adding to many cosmetics crap in the game for the sake of profit YOU WILL RUIN the game's progression and sense of accomplishment for end game armor when fucking BILLY with his mommy's credit card can get something far better and cooler looking. If you must do something with the store then do actual store items like RL shirts and stuff for us players to support the game but please for the love of all that is holy DO NOT SELL IN GAME GEAR OR ITEMS or your game will fail in the long term. SELL real life items to us players - Gaming mouse, keyboard, cloths or something with ashes of creation branding. That's it, you get your money we get our untainted game plus cool merch, easy everybody wins. They already plan to sell costumes/mount skins/pet skins/freehold skins etc. on the store when the game launches, it isn't exclusive to the pre-launch packs. If you're someone that cares that much about "visual progression" then that's not a focus of this game. The focus of the game should be THE GAME and ALL progression. There is nothing to defend. I care about the mistakes of the past and this is a concern. What would be your nightmare?
Sathrago wrote: » Josie1577 wrote: » Grimfaldra wrote: » I would rather put it this way: As long as I cannot buy stuff that totally outclasses all items I can earn in game (in terms of looks/visual effects), I don't mind cosmetics. If they don't take away ingame achievement, there is nothing wrong for ppl who have the cash to spend the cash. Talents wrote: » Josie1577 wrote: » My worst nightmare would be that there will be to many cosmetic items for sale and mounts for sale. this is not including holiday specials. That's different I get it once a year fun little mount or hat here and there for like 5 bucks or something, but If they release mounts like that cancer causing game from blizzard and sell them for like $25 I will be furious with this game. I mean leave the mounts for people who deserve them. I am also not counting the Kickstarter stuff or voyager packs to help support game development but once the game launches THATS IT no more cosmetic gear for sale. All armor, weapons and mounts should be earned or crafted. If they have a store it should be for something like furniture or something innocent that is not to much of a big deal. But watch out DEVS, if you mess up by adding to many cosmetics crap in the game for the sake of profit YOU WILL RUIN the game's progression and sense of accomplishment for end game armor when fucking BILLY with his mommy's credit card can get something far better and cooler looking. If you must do something with the store then do actual store items like RL shirts and stuff for us players to support the game but please for the love of all that is holy DO NOT SELL IN GAME GEAR OR ITEMS or your game will fail in the long term. SELL real life items to us players - Gaming mouse, keyboard, cloths or something with ashes of creation branding. That's it, you get your money we get our untainted game plus cool merch, easy everybody wins. They already plan to sell costumes/mount skins/pet skins/freehold skins etc. on the store when the game launches, it isn't exclusive to the pre-launch packs. If you're someone that cares that much about "visual progression" then that's not a focus of this game. The focus of the game should be THE GAME and ALL progression. There is nothing to defend. I care about the mistakes of the past and this is a concern. What would be your nightmare? Come up with a better non-p2w solution than selling cosmetics to fund the game and you will be hailed as a hero. Take your time.
Nerror wrote: » Sathrago wrote: » Josie1577 wrote: » Grimfaldra wrote: » I would rather put it this way: As long as I cannot buy stuff that totally outclasses all items I can earn in game (in terms of looks/visual effects), I don't mind cosmetics. If they don't take away ingame achievement, there is nothing wrong for ppl who have the cash to spend the cash. Talents wrote: » Josie1577 wrote: » My worst nightmare would be that there will be to many cosmetic items for sale and mounts for sale. this is not including holiday specials. That's different I get it once a year fun little mount or hat here and there for like 5 bucks or something, but If they release mounts like that cancer causing game from blizzard and sell them for like $25 I will be furious with this game. I mean leave the mounts for people who deserve them. I am also not counting the Kickstarter stuff or voyager packs to help support game development but once the game launches THATS IT no more cosmetic gear for sale. All armor, weapons and mounts should be earned or crafted. If they have a store it should be for something like furniture or something innocent that is not to much of a big deal. But watch out DEVS, if you mess up by adding to many cosmetics crap in the game for the sake of profit YOU WILL RUIN the game's progression and sense of accomplishment for end game armor when fucking BILLY with his mommy's credit card can get something far better and cooler looking. If you must do something with the store then do actual store items like RL shirts and stuff for us players to support the game but please for the love of all that is holy DO NOT SELL IN GAME GEAR OR ITEMS or your game will fail in the long term. SELL real life items to us players - Gaming mouse, keyboard, cloths or something with ashes of creation branding. That's it, you get your money we get our untainted game plus cool merch, easy everybody wins. They already plan to sell costumes/mount skins/pet skins/freehold skins etc. on the store when the game launches, it isn't exclusive to the pre-launch packs. If you're someone that cares that much about "visual progression" then that's not a focus of this game. The focus of the game should be THE GAME and ALL progression. There is nothing to defend. I care about the mistakes of the past and this is a concern. What would be your nightmare? Come up with a better non-p2w solution than selling cosmetics to fund the game and you will be hailed as a hero. Take your time. It would have to be real life merch, or something within the IP that isn't ingame. Collector plushies, books, clothes, cards (like MTG), mouse pads, mice, keyboards etc. etc. But you need to establish the IP first to really make it sell obviously.
Josie1577 wrote: » The thing is regardless they will have to find an alternative to cosmetics skins because the serious players do not like that people can just buy cool gear with their credit card and skipped the real challenge and progression. Its just not the way to go about an MMORPG.
daveywavey wrote: » Josie1577 wrote: » The thing is regardless they will have to find an alternative to cosmetics skins because the serious players do not like that people can just buy cool gear with their credit card and skipped the real challenge and progression. Its just not the way to go about an MMORPG. They're already making a boatload of cash from it, or they wouldn't be doing it. Anyone spending money on the game this early is already pretty "serious" about it. Please speak for yourself, and not the rest of us!
BaSkA13 wrote: » Josie1577 wrote: » The thing is regardless they will have to find an alternative to cosmetics skins because the serious players do not like that people can just buy cool gear with their credit card and skipped the real challenge and progression. Its just not the way to go about an MMORPG. It's so weird having to defend skins, but I must do it: what facts prove your statements? I've spent more money than I should have in skins and I consider myself a "serious player", therefore your statements are false. Right? P.S.: not trying to be rude, but opinions aren't facts.
