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Please stop the FOMO cosmetic shop
Grimseethe
Member, Alpha Two
I would like to ask you to bring back every cosmetic item from your monthly store, since the beginning.
All that effort into making these cosmetics and only a fraction of players are buying them.
Don't you want more players to enjoy your work.
Just to be clear I can afford these cosmetics even monthly, but I don't buy them on principle.
All I'm asking is that you bring them back and make them permanent additions to the store.
If you do this I will in time buy every single cosmetics you have made, making you thousands from myself alone.
I've been talking to alot of people about this and they agree.
You would make so much money, people aren't buying them because they hate FOMO.
But separate from the financial benefits of this, think of the players.
As gamers yourselves can you honestly say you'd be happy with this if you were a gamer/customer.
Ideally we would be able to earn everything, but at least let us buy it without a time limit.
Imagine you're a new player and you see someone on a cool mount, you ask them how they got and they explain that you need to clear a raid and in that raid there is a secret quest that leads to getting this mount.
Or.. " I bought it you can't it now"
Or " I logged in on this day and we all got one, you can't get it now".
The latter shuts the player down and gives them nothing to look forward to, nothing to trive towards.
Please consider it.
All that effort into making these cosmetics and only a fraction of players are buying them.
Don't you want more players to enjoy your work.
Just to be clear I can afford these cosmetics even monthly, but I don't buy them on principle.
All I'm asking is that you bring them back and make them permanent additions to the store.
If you do this I will in time buy every single cosmetics you have made, making you thousands from myself alone.
I've been talking to alot of people about this and they agree.
You would make so much money, people aren't buying them because they hate FOMO.
But separate from the financial benefits of this, think of the players.
As gamers yourselves can you honestly say you'd be happy with this if you were a gamer/customer.
Ideally we would be able to earn everything, but at least let us buy it without a time limit.
Imagine you're a new player and you see someone on a cool mount, you ask them how they got and they explain that you need to clear a raid and in that raid there is a secret quest that leads to getting this mount.
Or.. " I bought it you can't it now"
Or " I logged in on this day and we all got one, you can't get it now".
The latter shuts the player down and gives them nothing to look forward to, nothing to trive towards.
Please consider it.
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Pretty sure that's a good way for Intrepid to get sued seeing as they've stated numerous times the previous cosmetics are one and done.
No, btw. Contrary to popular belief FOMO is a consumer sentiment not a merchant responsibility.
Cash shop cosmetics will offer a diverse selection of unique looks.[8]
I want to incentivize purchase in the cosmetic shop for sustainability of what expansions we have intended, since we are not a box cost. I want to incentivize purchase by offering limited items: limited time, limited quantity, so you have confidence that when you purchase them, they won't be offered later on in some other way.[5] – Steven Sharif
Then that Thanksgiving they gave hundreds of them away in a pumpkin popping event, and you saw them all over and I was unhappy.
Moral of this story: If someone gets a rare item, don't make it common! So sorry @Grimseethe , I don't like your idea, not at all.
All of you misconstrue what FOMO is, what the cash-shop is for and why it runs the way it does, and no new ideas or intelligent perspectives are added to the conversation that has been had hundreds of time before.
If you can't cope, go see a therapist and stop whining. You can't have it all. Suck it up. Disappear.
They’re being offered as incentives to continue financial support, but if they weren’t, you’d still be seeing these styles on creatures and NPCs. They’re not meant to be widespread looks.
Are the prices steep? Somewhat, unfortunately most of these are about market-standard prices on digital products, which are high on their own. Are they FOMO? Yes, they qualify as using a fear-of-missing-out tactic, but since the intent is that they be rare and not commonly seen, it can sort of be justified.
From my personal perspective if I see someone with a purchased cosmetic I will barely give it a second glance however if I see something that was achieved in-game and I like it I will be curious as to how to obtain it myself. thus there is a drive to play the game and obtain said item/cosmetic. Perhaps I am just immune to FOMO as I honestly do not feel like I am missing out on anything.
Don't get me wrong the monthly cosmetics look fantastic but I always tell myself there will be just as good if not better in-game achievable items and those mean far more to me than any cosmetic I opened my wallet for.
This especially. While it’ll be cool to look like a mob from a specific dungeon in a specific node during a specific event (just think of the very purple edgy stuff we got one month last year), that’s really just a RP flavor. It doesn’t indicate skill, or a time investment, just money spent at a specific time. In game where you either pay up or look like trash, I’d be concerned about the cosmetics, but I trust the team to make a game that they themselves would enjoy playing, and half the fun of playing is showing off what you’ve accomplished.
"Maybe if I post a FOMO rant in the forums they'll let me buy it ... despite the pre-order rulesets in place."
um, this game may not be for you.
filtered by the cosmetic shop
You can talk to Steven about funding the game, couple hundred millions ought to suffice for some time.
P.S. Let the rest of us help pay for the game, really, its OK, just sit back and relax, we'll take it from here, no problem.
'Not the merchants responsibility', sure. Steven is perfectly free to let money keep sitting on the table and lock content that would otherwise sell more units by a permanent time gate long term. On the other hand nothing is stopping him from dropping the current policy for future releases. It's a customers right to tell a company when they are being idiots leaving money on the table for literally no reason other than 'tradition'. Free trade and bad approaches to discourse go both ways in a customer/seller relationship.
I suppose it would suck to miss something you really wanted, but something else will come out that’s awesome too. Just look at spud. One of their best pets yet.
Issue is not whether or not you believe one is wrong or right way to do it. The fact is they already committeed to the fact that they are exlusive. Once that's been said going backwards on it would be far worse hence the critism of OP post. It's not about whether it was good or bad , it's the fact they are asking to take away something from people that already bought in.
Then it loses all value and there is no reason to continue. Since you can't use the items, if it's not exclusive, then there is no reason to buy it. You would wait until you can play the game to buy what you want to play with.
Would you rather have the monthly option or no option at all?
they could, but that's not what OP asked for and solves nothing they have asked for which is to buy the previous cosmetics.
I don't see how it has no value. You are preordering a product. You will receive a product. You will be supporting the game
and the people i know agree, hell even a few of em refuse to get into ashes cause of it.
the main argument being "why do i wanna play a game that has 50 of each cosmetic i cant even get anymore when it hasnt even launched? that just sounds like a waste of time.."
If your friends idea of content is whats in a cash shop then I weep for the future of gaming.
Some people buy an item because it is exclusive. They want something no one else has so they purchase it. If they were to just resell it and let everyone have access to that exclusive item ot will feel bad for the person who bought it thinking it was exclusive.
Making something exclusive gives it that value. If you remove the value of it being exclusive then it will devalue that item.
I get both sides but it was the choice for model. If you really like something then probably buy it. It's been a business model for a lot of games over a long time. Pros and Cons of any business and they already decided. It would not look good for them to go back on that.
All I can suggest is buy it if you really want it
people will be able to do that when the game releases and the cash shop is live and uses the ember currency and people can buy as much or as little of them as they like to redeem on cosmetics.