Server transfers should be free (at least in language diverse regions) + servers need language tags

So, something that a lot of mmos fuck up in europe, is to properly tag their servers with languages, it leaves it to the communities to figure out who goes where and it makes it frustrating and awful having to realise after playing for a while, that on a server you are playing you will have nearly no interaction because very few if any people speak your language. this isnt always something that is obvious quickly or at the start, at launch of an mmo in particular, if they dont have enough servers with enough tags. i dont think there should be any language lock, but there should be a server for every language in at least europe so people know where to go to seek communication.

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Sathrago

I disagree that you should get free server transfers just because your region is multi lingual. Either they make all server transfers free or they dont.

As for your issue, I'm gonna need another solution, because I dont have any to give atm. Just know that selective freebies is not going to fly.

Ludullu

No free transfers, yes language tagging as a suggestion for the players.

Balanz

Learn Esperanto?

It worked for William Shatner.

Atama

I’m in favor of not charging for server transfers.

Because you don’t allow server transfers.

Noaani

Preferred language tags is not a bad idea at all - server transfers are a hard no.

insomnia

It would be abused. Maybe if you couldnt transfer materials

JustVine

insomnia wrote: »

It would be abused. Maybe if you couldnt transfer materials

I would assume a lot of stuff wouldn't transfer. Gear that requires unlocks not available on the server is another. Freehold placement, node citizenship, reputation, possibly even most of your mounts due to the stable system. I don't see a problem with it if it's strict in minimizing stuff not possible on the server transfering over. I would probably also only allow it once in a life time

tautau

If we just say 'No Server Transfers' then the problem is solved. After all, you can always re-roll on another server, right?

Voxtrium

Definitely no on server transfers, make a new character if you want to be on a different server. Language tags sound like a good suggestion.

CROW3

tautau wrote: »

If we just say 'No Server Transfers' then the problem is solved. After all, you can always re-roll on another server, right?

Exactly.

Freya

the reroll is a bad solution because it might waste a week or two worth of time

Ludullu

Freya wrote: »

the reroll is a bad solution because it might waste a week or two worth of time

And server transfer w/o loss of property/gear/resources/money would bring imbalance to the new server.

Freya

NiKr wrote: »

Freya wrote: »

the reroll is a bad solution because it might waste a week or two worth of time

And server transfer w/o loss of property/gear/resources/money would bring imbalance to the new server.

if property is a concern they can disable that but keep the character level

Ludullu

Freya wrote: »

if property is a concern they can disable that but keep the character level

At the point where you might need a transfer, the leveling process will most likely be way shorter than the currently projected one, while getting new gear/property/etc (of the same quality), on a new server where you don't know anyone, would take you way longer.

But starting a new character and integrating into the server's community from the very start would not only flow smoother, but would also let other people to know you better.

Atama

Freya wrote: »

So, something that a lot of mmos fuck up in europe, is to properly tag their servers with languages, it leaves it to the communities to figure out who goes where and it makes it frustrating and awful having to realise after playing for a while, that on a server you are playing you will have nearly no interaction because very few if any people speak your language. this isnt always something that is obvious quickly or at the start, at launch of an mmo in particular, if they dont have enough servers with enough tags.

I have to say, in decades of playing online games, I have never experienced this.

How can you not notice pretty quickly that nobody in chat is speaking your language? I'd say if you're that dense, you deserve the pain of a reroll.

Language tags are fine, sure. I don't see any harm in that. But allowing for free server transfers because gosh, after playing for 30 hours I just realized everyone was speaking German. Come on now.

akabear

Most EU servers I have played on in the past had a cast of players speaking multiple languages.
Most US servers had predominately English and sometimes the predominant language switched during off-peak.

There is already a planned cap on numbers per server and those servers are globally / geographically divided, I see only destructive results by further dividing the community by language.

I think transfers could be free within the first month and/or 1 free transfer, thereafter have to pay.

Dygz

Also, the devs have said we will be able to determine the population of servers before we join.
This might be an issue the first month or so.
Seems like Communities might already be established to a decent degree by the end of Alpha 2.
And very likely to be solidified with server designation during Headstart.

SongRune

That's a good point actually. I feel really bad for anyone who's claiming their name registration on a particular server, only to find out later that nobody with their language joined it at launch. It's hard to research that in advance, and if your name is taken elsewhere, you can't even transfer. Language tags are a must.

Nerror

A definite no thanks to server transfers, free or paid. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Server_transfers

As for language tags, I'd be ok with that in an informal way at least. Community-driven. As far as we know, we'll likely be getting server pre-registering before launch, a bit like SWTOR did. If a bunch of german guilds decide to go on the Bratwurst server, to a point where it's clear germans are going to be a majority, I'd be ok if Intrepid tags it as a german majority server, even if the official language is still english.

I would hate to end up on a server with a majority of non-english speakers myself. I am pretty sure most of us in the nordics feel the same. I mean, I am cool with playing with anyone in europe, just, use english please, for zone/node/general chat.

Gizban

Freya wrote: »

the reroll is a bad solution because it might waste a week or two worth of time

A week or two of effort is a drop in a bucket when it comes to an MMORPG.

Player reputation is important in AoC, because community is important in AoC. Server transfers (easy or not) give an out for players who ruin their reputation. It allows them to escape consequences, and that's a no go.

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