Should False Mass Reports Be Punished?

Just wanted to see what people think of the idea of whether or not people who falsely mass report a player who is found to not be guilty be punished?

An example would be a large guild mass reporting a player gathering in an area so they are banned/suspended so they can monopolize an area to grind materials unhindered. Should all of the people involved in the mass report then be suspended? Banned? Other ideas?

This has always been an issue in MMOs at least to some degree, and as far as I know, the reporters never receive repercussions for what I would consider an exploitation of the game.

What are everyones opinions on this?

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CROW3

It’s just another form of griefing imo. Consequences are necessary.

Dolyem

CROW3 wrote: »

It’s just another form of griefing imo. Consequences are necessary.

any suggestions for proper levels of punishment? I almost feel like the entire guild should be punished if it seems like enough of them are involved in the report.

Arya_Yeshe

Would a one player farm be a problem for an entire guild?
This would never happen.

But for sure guilds will mass report an innocent player, by mistake or for any other reason.

Asmongold is wrong about this subject, he is not Enlightement... he said that PVPers do mass reports in attempt to win at any cost, that is wrong.

The mass report thing is mostly done by try-hards (being try-hard carebears or try-hard pvpers), they will do anything to beat you in the game, they will farm more, use bots, do mass reports and do anything else they can.

No company should automatically suspend or ban people based on the ammount of reports.

What the players could do is recording a very tiny video and upload it somewhere and only take action if the violation is blatant... then the company can use the video as reference for keeping track where this is happening, against which mobs, which materials are being farmed etc... then they will have a reference for something automated based on proof.

Dolyem

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

Would a one player farm be a problem for an entire guild?
This would never happen.

But for sure guilds will mass report an innocent player, by mistake or for any other reason.

Asmongold is wrong about this subject, he is not Enlightement... he said that PVPers do mass reports in attempt to win at any cost, that is wrong.

The mass report thing is mostly done by try-hards (being try-hard carebears or try-hard pvpers), they will do anything to beat you in the game, they will farm more, use bots, do mass reports and do anything else they can.

No company should automatically suspend or ban people based on the ammount of reports.

What the players could do is recording a very tiny video and upload it somewhere and only take action if the violation is blatant... then the company can use the video as reference for keeping track where this is happening, against which mobs, which materials are being farmed etc... then they will have a reference for something automated based on proof.

I think you misunderstood the post. I am asking whether or not the people mass reporting an innocent player should be punished, and how severely they should be punished.

Depraved

mass reports shouldnt auto kick/ban a player and false mass reports should be punished

CROW3

I don’t think the whole guild would be punished, just the individuals involved.

Arya_Yeshe

I understood and I answered the question, it is right there and fully explained.

Dolyem

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

I understood and I answered the question, it is right there and fully explained.

Maybe summarize it then? It isn't very clear what your stance is based on that comment.

Sathrago

If there is evidence that it was coordinated then participants get a 1 week ban. A second offense of the same type warrants a permanent suspension.

I like these sorts of rules being strict because I know that I'll never be one to break them.

Ludullu

Yeah, a ramp up of punishment for serial false mass reporting would be nice. Imo that kind of action is as bad as genocidal PKing, if not even worse if the mass reporting autobans someone.

Hinotori

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

Would a one player farm be a problem for an entire guild?
This would never happen.

But for sure guilds will mass report an innocent player, by mistake or for any other reason.

Asmongold is wrong about this subject, he is not Enlightement... he said that PVPers do mass reports in attempt to win at any cost, that is wrong.

The mass report thing is mostly done by try-hards (being try-hard carebears or try-hard pvpers), they will do anything to beat you in the game, they will farm more, use bots, do mass reports and do anything else they can.

No company should automatically suspend or ban people based on the ammount of reports.

What the players could do is recording a very tiny video and upload it somewhere and only take action if the violation is blatant... then the company can use the video as reference for keeping track where this is happening, against which mobs, which materials are being farmed etc... then they will have a reference for something automated based on proof.

Bruh. Come on. You play eve. You know exactly what people go through to win timers. People have gone to fleet commanders houses and cut the power just so they can't log in.

Mass reporting players to increase gained resources, priority freehold space, economic monopolies etc. Will 100% happen.

People will stoop to any means necessary to gain an advantage over others.

I agree no player should be banned through mob rule and all cases should be investigated. I also feel that groups of people or guilds engaging in an effort to mass report players should face some kind of punishment.

Mag7spy

They need smart systems in place, if suddenly you are being mass reported within a small timeframe in an unusual way things need to be investigated. There shouldn't just be a auto punishment because of reports it should just flag an account.

Aerlana

First, punishment should be given by a human, not some kind of line of codes.

Second, there are one thing to do to fight against the "false report" : GM should be able to flag a report if it was false or no. mass report and in general false report woudl end to show toxic people using this way.
Then, it is choices to just ignore their report against other players, or find a punishment.

worddog2

Dolyem wrote: »

Just wanted to see what people think of the idea of whether or not people who falsely mass report a player who is found to not be guilty be punished?

An example would be a large guild mass reporting a player gathering in an area so they are banned/suspended so they can monopolize an area to grind materials unhindered. Should all of the people involved in the mass report then be suspended? Banned? Other ideas?

This has always been an issue in MMOs at least to some degree, and as far as I know, the reporters never receive repercussions for what I would consider an exploitation of the game.

What are everyones opinions on this?

If a player was mass reported, and it turns out they did not break any rules, all players who reported them should receive a warning. Repeat offenders can have their ability to report taken away.

Sail

Dolyem wrote: »

Just wanted to see what people think of the idea of whether or not people who falsely mass report a player who is found to not be guilty be punished?

Should all of the people involved in the mass report then be suspended? Banned? Other ideas?

Suspended once, permanently banned if it happens twice, gonna give a radical example, but should people who fake being assaulted to win money in a lawsuit get in trouble ? The answer is yes.

Noaani

Mag7spy wrote: »

They need smart systems in place, if suddenly you are being mass reported within a small timeframe in an unusual way things need to be investigated. There shouldn't just be a auto punishment because of reports it should just flag an account.

While I agree completely, I've never seriously played a game that has a system to automatically ban players.

It's one of those situations where if a developer is doing this, you know that developer simply doesn't care. I don't get why anyone would play an MMO from a developer that doesn't care.

Grimmsley

Absolutely. It's misuse of its intended function and it could make innocent players of the community suffer from false claims.

Strevi

Mass Reports should not work.
If players try to overload the GMs, it is up to GMs to decide what to do.
I prefer a flexible approach, where players may or may not be punished but where the players do not know where the limit is to prevent abusing the system.

Ironhope

Auto-banning people as result of mass reports should not work.

Live service GMs should investigate instantly based on mass reports to see whats happening.

If abusive reports are a clear trend, the people reporting should be suspended for a day or two to get the idea, a week or two if they keep repeating.

Scarbeus

Without a doubt, it's harassment.

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