AOC Bounty Hunting

What changes or details would you like to see with Bounty Hunting? There’s not much info besides that there’s a skill/quest line that is needed and the higher you are in that line the better your tracking will be apparently. Also you’ll be flagged for pvp only to corrupted players supposedly.
I’m personally curious on the loot the corrupted player drops. It may go to the user of the killing blow, but I feel this would maybe be better with a split loot system given to people recently damaging the player. I also feel further elaboration on this system could deter those looking forward to griefing and give faith to players having concerns with the flagging system (I personally love the idea of the system). I’ll be doing a video based on this feedback.

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Ludullu

Imo the system feels very weak, as currently presented. I hope they've reworked it drastically, but I also kinda doubt that considering the recent info about corruption. I have an idea that I think might work, but it depends on how the pvp looting rights work and I don't think we know that part of the design either.

NyceGaming

NiKr wrote: »

Imo the system feels very weak, as currently presented. I hope they've reworked it drastically, but I also kinda doubt that considering the recent info about corruption. I have an idea that I think might work, but it depends on how the pvp looting rights work and I don't think we know that part of the design either.

Yea it’s tough to say. It sounds like a fun system, but a lot of players feel bounties will be seldom considering the harsh penalties of corruption

Strevi

I think Bounty Hunters should get other roles too beside hunting corrupted players.
They could maybe interact with those thieves
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Thieves'_guild

Arya_Yeshe

The Bounty Hunters would need more stuff to do.

I dont think there will be a bunch of Corrupted people walking around this much, so I don't think this system will be a big thing in AoC.

It is interesting that the Corrupted player would not suffer penalties when fighting a Bounty Hunter, this would allow "bounty hunter baiting", since you can get Corruption just to attract fights

NyceGaming

Strevi wrote: »

I think Bounty Hunters should get other roles too beside hunting corrupted players.
They could maybe interact with those thieves
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Thieves'_guild

Yea I could see that. The thieves seem like it’ll have consistent content not reliant on the playerbase whereas bounty hunting could get stale if there are less corrupteds as people are now foreseeing

NyceGaming

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

The Bounty Hunters would need more stuff to do.

I dont think there will be a bunch of Corrupted people walking around this much, so I don't think this system will be a big thing in AoC.

It is interesting that the Corrupted player would not suffer penalties when fighting a Bounty Hunter, this would allow "bounty hunter baiting", since you can get Corruption just to attract fights

Yea it’s interesting. Last week a lot of people were saying corrupteds will be everywhere but since the livestream it’s been proven/predicted this won’t be often. I agree with this take so maybe there will be some npc bounties or something if things get stale; idk

Frostywombat

How about npcs who spawn and wander in a random direction murdering players. They could look like players but have a themed name and be a member of the npc guild. Basically a murder hobo bot. Various levels so may need a full party for some. Make them walk everywhere so if you can get out of there way if your looking out for them but they make the world a bit more random. Kinda like the rare elite spawns in wow.

George_Black

BH needs to be balanced around the severity of the corruption gains, purpuse of PK counts (if any) and the stats reduction of reds.

We have to wait till we can strike a balance. My opinion so far is that unless the corruption system is exactly as severe as the one in L2, the BHs become too much to bear.
I want to see a change of direction with the harsher approach to going red in AoC, so that BH are meaningful and necessary, and more can be done ABOUT THEM.

Arya_Yeshe

Frostywombat wrote: »

How about npcs who spawn and wander in a random direction murdering players. They could look like players but have a themed name and be a member of the npc guild. Basically a murder hobo bot. Various levels so may need a full party for some. Make them walk everywhere so if you can get out of there way if your looking out for them but they make the world a bit more random. Kinda like the rare elite spawns in wow.

No NPCs please, hunting people should be for people

Frostywombat

George_Black wrote: »

I want to see a change of direction with the harsher approach to going red in AoC, so that BH are meaningful and necessary, and more can be done ABOUT THEM.

Totally agree, ideally there needs to be enough reds on the map that the bh group can roam and not get to bored and going red is dangerous but you’re still got a chance that you can get away with it without being the only red target on the bh radar.

Hard to balance. While not ideal, npc dynamic spawning could be a useful tool to help balance it. Npc s should probably not actually advance the class just give you a bit of loot to keep the group together till a juicy target shows up. If there’s enough red players on the map then Npc murder hobos wouldn’t spawn

CROW3

You know, you start reframing 'reds' as monsters and 'bounty hunters' as witchers, and - BAM - instant increase in interest.

George_Black

Frostywombat wrote: »

George_Black wrote: »

I want to see a change of direction with the harsher approach to going red in AoC, so that BH are meaningful and necessary, and more can be done ABOUT THEM.

Totally agree, ideally there needs to be enough reds on the map that the bh group can roam and not get to bored and going red is dangerous but you’re still got a chance that you can get away with it without being the only red target on the bh radar.

Hard to balance. While not ideal, npc dynamic spawning could be a useful tool to help balance it. Npc s should probably not actually advance the class just give you a bit of loot to keep the group together till a juicy target shows up. If there’s enough red players on the map then Npc murder hobos wouldn’t spawn

I dont advocate for "more reds for BHs".
Im saying that the recent announcements show that AoC system will be way more severe than L2, the main point being that (without being very clear) people will drop gear from the first PK, which wasnt the case in L2.

With such severity BHs are an extra pain in the ass. What more can be done for the BHs? Nothing that wont completely shut down PKing.

Frostywombat

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

No NPCs please, hunting people should be for people

What if they didn’t advance the class were just trackable by high lvl bh.

Frostywombat

George_Black wrote: »

the main point being that (without being very clear) people will drop gear from the first PK,.

Yer seems pretty harsh, unless it’s like a 1% chance. I think everyone is going to jump reds if they drop to much stuff. BH probably won’t be viable because they will die to quick to get to them.

Arya_Yeshe

CROW3 wrote: »

You know, you start reframing 'reds' as monsters and 'bounty hunters' as witchers, and - BAM - instant increase in interest.

Remembers me of an Ultima Online roleplay shard where I played as Orc pk

Having players playing as monsters is cool, just see Left 4 Dead

Arya_Yeshe

Frostywombat wrote: »

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

No NPCs please, hunting people should be for people

What if they didn’t advance the class were just trackable by high lvl bh.

Just seeing the Corrupted on a map is not much engaging, at the momment the system is not so interesting.

SO BRING MEDIEVAL GIBBETS TO AOC!

WOULD BE COOL IF:
- the mayor could build/place gibbets or a structure that has gibbets
- the bounty hunter wins the fight he could choose to arrest the corrupted and put him on a gibbet in public square or at the entrance of the city if there's a free gibbet at the momment
- the corrupted should stay arrested for 15 minutes while burnning a bit of his corruption away
- after 15 minutes the corrupted may leave the cage, if he stays then he burns away more corruption until he is back to normal

Here's a miniature of a medieval gibbet for ilustration:

- On the gibbet we should see the name of the corrupted and the hunters
- maybe while on his gibbet he could have a huge HP pool, so carebears could shoot at him for many minutes, if he dies he dies and a little more corruption will go away
- let carebears torture pks

Okeydoke

Yeah I can't really see bounty hunters even being a thing anymore based on recent statements. Maybe they can be sent to hunt the pks in Throne and Liberty and AA2, lil cross game action lol. Options baby, exciting times are coming. The carebears can't possibly stop them all.

tautau

If the PKer goes into the gibbet, he should lose ALL of his gear and ALL of his gold, some going to the node.

Arya_Yeshe

tautau wrote: »

If the PKer goes into the gibbet, he should lose ALL of his gear and ALL of his gold, some going to the node.

What?
Public humiliation and llynching is not enough for you?

Sathrago

I posted a thread concerning this about 2 years ago. https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/47476/expanding-on-the-bounty-hunter-system/p1

The main thing that should be addressed even if the above suggestions are not taken is the lack of content for bounty hunters to actually engage in. They need targets outside of corruption to fight or fulfill their role on. I do not expect many corrupted players after players realize the gravity of going red and it would be a shame to see an iconic role like a bounty hunter just waste away as a relic only used to deal with corruption when it can easily be so much more.

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