WHICH CLASS CAN BE THE BEST IN PVP AND PVE

DEV

Depraved

pretty sure summoner will the best for solo pve T_T
and cleric will be the best for PVP ;3

DEV

i think rogue (Duelist) will be best for pvp and for pve will best tank(guardian)

Uboon

Any class typed in CAPS of course.

Snekkers

ashes is too complex to have "best for pvp" class
by saying best for pvp you mean 1v1? 3v3? 5v5? 10v10? ganking? caravans? arenas? sieges?
different encounter will have different metas, and with around 14k variations of skills in the game ther will be infinite amount of combinations that will work better or worse in different scenarios

DEV

i mean 1vs1

Songcaller

Haven't seen much of anything to answer this question.

bloodprophet

None.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Game_balance

Balancing in Ashes of Creation is group focused not based on 1v1 combat.[1][2]

Songcaller

Would be Cleric in pvp and pve solo due to heals being balanced for group play then.

Gui10

Rogues have always been known for pvp. Mages as well. Warriors offer lots of engage and some cc, rangers a lot of range and disabling the opponents with slows and debuffs. However, whats great about such a diversity in classes is that you can make up a ton of different team compositions, so likely all classes will have a strong impact, with a lesser impact for healers, tanks and supports, which might still help you win, but they rarely are the MVP. DPS classes are "best" in pvp imho.

PvE it depends a whole lot because tanks and healers are just as important but play a totally different role, ofc, so I wouldnt really be able to say who's "best". Tanks are going to be the best tanks, clerics the best healers, as for dps, I feel it will depend a lot of the types of encounters and how big the raids are.

The more immobile you can be during a fight, spell casters will be able to dps more. As for single target, rogues are usually very good, rangers as well. Warriors usually do well with aoe, same with fire mages.

Btw, the table you provided is the archetype list

Dolyem

The intent is to have counters for every class. Hard to say without actually playing the game anyway. I'll keep my current predictions to myself regardless 😜

Sunboy

The upper class. But the proletariat will rise again!

Strevi

If we end up agreeing on a class, Steven will balance to prove us wrong.
During Alpha 2 and even Beta we may see balance changes.

Solvryn

Too early to tell and the balance philosophy may change, whole question is depending on the changes to Class Design and Combat.

Spif

In PvE the 1-1 title usually goes to the hybrid. So Cleric or Summoner (or both!) will probably be the best at soloing packs or mini-bosses. Other classes might kill solo mobs faster though.

In PvP they've said it's going to be rock-paper-scissors for 1-1. I'm not sure how finely they are going to differentiate mage-dps from melee-dps from ranged-physical-dps. However, I'm going to predict that Ranger is the most likely to be a good open world PvP class, and Summoner most likely to be a weaker one (pets get ignored).

Which class can PvE the best while in a "PvP spec" and vice-versa is going to be very important in PvX.

Songcaller

I think Soul Weaver will be quite decent overall. Bard buffs and Cleric self heals. Not sure if Bard will have AoE though.

DEV

Songcaller wrote: »

I think Soul Weaver will be quite decent overall. Bard buffs and Cleric self heals. Not sure if Bard will have AoE though.

hmm maybe you right.

Kilion

If Intrepid does well, no class will be "best" on that broad of a level.

Chonkers1

(this is all speculated)
Solo PvE: Summoner/Cleric

Small Group (=<8) PvE: Bard or Tank

Large Group (>8) PvE: Tank or Bard


Solo PvP: Cleric/Cleric

Small Group (=<8) PvP: Ranger

Large Group (>8) PvP: Mage