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Tank as Movement blockers rather than a damage sponge

BotagarBotagar Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
Cause we haven't had enough Tank discussion, I bring forth Tank as Movement blockers and area denial roles rather than just a heavy armor damage sponge.

Currently, of the games that I've played, a tank is mostly: "take aggro, stand on the other side of arena, soak damage". Sure some encounters throw some spice into the mix but ulitmately that's the core.
Fight's tend to look like:
mHr0nph.png
Positioning isn't THAT important for those other than Tank. Dodge circles or cones but otherwise, it doesn't really matter where you stand.

What about....
Think of tanks as the front line of a Roman Line formation, they take the brunt of the frontal attacks, protecting those behind them, but they also block any movement of an enemy trying to get past them.
roman_formation_by_vickitoriaembroidery-d4evuzx-1.jpg?x70072
We could see fights where everyone's positioning matters:
vGq9d9C.png
This could be enabled by Tanks active blocking also making them resistent to displacement, and make them protect everyone behind them in a fan out area (Yellow zone). As range DPS, you want to make sure you're always shielded by a Tank.
Melee DPS can continue to duck and weave in their damage as they see fit.
I would then reduce the reliance on a "Threat" meter where the boss or mobs attack what they feel is the best target, but its up to the tanks to re-position and body block. Successful movement blocking could cause the boss to attack the tank in frustration.

Such mechanics can carry over to PvP where good tanks can cover many ranged DPS making them a high priority target to get off the field.

Comments

  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack
    Botagar wrote: »
    Cause we haven't had enough Tank discussion, I bring forth Tank as Movement blockers and area denial roles rather than just a heavy armor damage sponge.

    So, what you are saying is that tanks should be CC rather than tanks?

    Because that is literally the role of a CC class, area denial and movement blockers.
  • Botagar wrote: »
    Cause we haven't had enough Tank discussion,
    I can make one too :tongue:
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  • AzheraeAzherae Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    This is gonna come off as really rude.

    Play better (relative to tanking) games.

    There's no need to make posts about how you've only played 'bad' ones to suggest the mechanics used in 'good' ones, right?

    You can just 'find good ones' or 'wait for Intrepid to make a good one'.

    I say this rude thing because while you have my sympathy, it probably wasn't worth making yet another topic about Tanks to suggest doing a thing that Tanks already do. All it means is that poor Vaknar/someone has to merge it, if it turns into another 'group of people who haven't played good games talking about how they haven't played good games'.
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  • NiKrNiKr Member
    Yes.

    Also, Intrepid is already planning to at least test this out. Steven mentioned a cone-shaped formation with tanks. There's a fairly high chance we'll see it in this upcoming stream.
  • SolvrynSolvryn Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    Botagar wrote: »
    Cause we haven't had enough Tank discussion, I bring forth Tank as Movement blockers and area denial roles rather than just a heavy armor damage sponge.

    Currently, of the games that I've played, a tank is mostly: "take aggro, stand on the other side of arena, soak damage". Sure some encounters throw some spice into the mix but ulitmately that's the core.
    Fight's tend to look like:
    mHr0nph.png
    Positioning isn't THAT important for those other than Tank. Dodge circles or cones but otherwise, it doesn't really matter where you stand.

    What about....
    Think of tanks as the front line of a Roman Line formation, they take the brunt of the frontal attacks, protecting those behind them, but they also block any movement of an enemy trying to get past them.
    roman_formation_by_vickitoriaembroidery-d4evuzx-1.jpg?x70072
    We could see fights where everyone's positioning matters:
    vGq9d9C.png
    This could be enabled by Tanks active blocking also making them resistent to displacement, and make them protect everyone behind them in a fan out area (Yellow zone). As range DPS, you want to make sure you're always shielded by a Tank.
    Melee DPS can continue to duck and weave in their damage as they see fit.
    I would then reduce the reliance on a "Threat" meter where the boss or mobs attack what they feel is the best target, but its up to the tanks to re-position and body block. Successful movement blocking could cause the boss to attack the tank in frustration.

    Such mechanics can carry over to PvP where good tanks can cover many ranged DPS making them a high priority target to get off the field.

    That’s what a well made tank does. Blocks movement and controls the field.
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