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We have a new Lead Game Designer: Bill Trost

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  • edited June 2023
    Quite a nice career, i expect him to be a good addition to the team and i wish him the best of luck.
    I believe it would be a good idea if the community could have some Q&A session with him,
    i'm pretty sure many would be interested in having him answer some questions.

    The questions i'm probably most interested in are:

    What was the specific "Additional Designs" that he worked on NW?

    How familiarized(design-wise) he is with the main games Ashes of Creation draws inspirations from?
    (Lineage 2, Archeage, Star Wars Galaxies and Eve Online)

    Considering EverQuest was the game he started with and had most experience in, which aspects of EverQuest design he considers the most important ones and which of those aspects he believes Ashes would benefit the most?
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  • GizbanGizban Member, Braver of Worlds, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    @JamesSunderland what inspiration do you feel came from EVE?
  • pyreal wrote: »
    @JamesSunderland what inspiration do you feel came from EVE?

    "i'ts regionalized economy and risk vs reward in transportation."

    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Inspiration
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  • What happened with the former Lead Game Designer?
  • NerrorNerror Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    He left to pursue a career in VR gaming, which was apparently his passion.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Nice. Hopefully, he’s on board with what’s been developed so far, and doesn’t result in a lot of rework.
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  • CadrorCadror Member
    Does Mr. Trost plan on giving AOC content that didn't make into games like EQ2?

    Some examples (not sure if any is his) found here: https://archive.rpgamer.com/games/everquest/eq2/eq2oldss.html
  • DezmerizingDezmerizing Member, Alpha Two
    Welcome, Bill! I hope you'll find a good way to use your astonishing MMORPG-development experience to make AoC something amazing!

    Hope to see you in one of the upcoming livestreams!
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  • VissoxVissox Member, Alpha Two
    I didn't like everquest or New world, but I don't really know anything about Bill or what design decisions he got to make, so I have an overall neutral opinion about this.
  • PherPhurPherPhur Member
    edited July 2023
    WHIT3ROS3 wrote: »
    Congratulations to Bill Trost.
    BaSkA_9x2 wrote: »
    I'm not sure if saying you've worked on Amazon Games or New World should be something you're proud of.

    I certainly hope some of you don't operate in real life like you do online. Jesus, What a disgustingly rude thing to say. I would be hugely proud to have worked at one of the biggest studios in the world for one of the biggest companies in the world, to create a New IP MMO that has sold 20 million odd copies.

    Wtf are you even saying, Amazon games isn't a big studio, not by any stretch of the imagination. Did you write that just because Amazing is so massive?

    And it sold 20 million copies cause it was a little bit of eye candy, an MMO(we've been desperate for years), had lots of promises that weren't delivered, and was sold from one of the largest businesses in the world, a household name.

    Sold THAT many copies and is critically acclaimed to be in the bottom of the barrel of MMOs, so much so it's a lasting meme in the community, nice. Typical corporate cash grab. Gotm! I would be ashamed and denounce them, in hopes any respectable companies would look kindly onto picking me up. Which I'm sure, between Steven and him, he has. How could you not lol.
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  • Ya love to see it. I hope he bring some of the greatness of Everquest into the modern age
  • RebutkoRebutko Member, Alpha Two
    Not to be rude but why would anyone be excited about a developer coming on that was responsible for new world that was a gigantic failure ?
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Rebutko wrote: »
    Not to be rude but why would anyone be excited about a developer coming on that was responsible for new world that was a gigantic failure ?

    In part because the person in question basically invented the modern MMORPG genre.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    Rebutko wrote: »
    Not to be rude but why would anyone be excited about a developer coming on that was responsible for new world that was a gigantic failure ?

    there are some nw devs working in aoc already. i think we met one in a past stream. there is nothing wrong with that.
  • RebutkoRebutko Member, Alpha Two
    edited September 2023
    Just please don’t make this game anything like EverQuest or new world. We need
    Noaani wrote: »
    Rebutko wrote: »
    Not to be rude but why would anyone be excited about a developer coming on that was responsible for new world that was a gigantic failure ?

    In part because the person in question basically invented the modern MMORPG genre.

    I have mixed feelings here. I think the mmo genre needs a complete overhaul and fresh ways of thinking if it’s going to survive. I understand his experience is adept, but if old themes of a past era are brought into AoC it will become another one in the dust heap. I sincerely hope he brings his expertise but not his experience.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    edited September 2023
    Rebutko wrote: »
    Just please don’t make this game anything like EverQuest or new world. We need
    Noaani wrote: »
    Rebutko wrote: »
    Not to be rude but why would anyone be excited about a developer coming on that was responsible for new world that was a gigantic failure ?

    In part because the person in question basically invented the modern MMORPG genre.

    I have mixed feelings here. I think the mmo genre needs a complete overhaul and fresh ways of thinking if it’s going to survive. I understand his experience is adept, but if old themes of a past era are brought into AoC it will become another one in the dust heap. I sincerely hope he brings his expertise but not his experience.

    I think you have it backwards here.

    A part if the reason many MMO's recently have been shit is because they have strayed too far from the original intent and purpose of the genre.

    Going back to those roots is what is needed, not running even further from them.

    This is kind of what the grand plan for Ashes is - Steven used to even wear a "Make MMO's Great Again" hat to reinforce that this is the goal.

    As to New World and Bill's experiences with it, I would wager his major lesson from that is to avoid rigid deadlines - release the game when it's ready - not that I expect he had any say in the matter when it was Amazon corporate that essentially demanded the final release date (they wanted New World to be the cornerstone of Amazon Games).
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    Would be cool to see him on a livestream.
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • TalentsTalents Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    edited September 2023
    Rebutko wrote: »
    Not to be rude but why would anyone be excited about a developer coming on that was responsible for new world that was a gigantic failure ?

    He wasn't responsible for New World. He worked on it but wasn't a lead on it.

    If working on something == responsible for it then I'm afraid to tell you Ashes has an employee that used to work on Chronicles of Elyria.
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  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Talents wrote: »
    If working on something == responsible for it then I'm afraid to tell you Ashes has an employee that used to work on Chronicles of Elyria.
    We. Are. All. Doomed.

    Ashes is a scam confirmed :s
  • Mag7spyMag7spy Member, Alpha Two
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    Talents wrote: »
    Rebutko wrote: »
    Not to be rude but why would anyone be excited about a developer coming on that was responsible for new world that was a gigantic failure ?

    He wasn't responsible for New World. He worked on it but wasn't a lead on it.

    If working on something == responsible for it then I'm afraid to tell you Ashes has an employee that used to work on Chronicles of Elyria.

    That is entirely based on your position, the higher the position the more responsibilities you have.....I feel like you were trying to word this another way... You can definitely be responsible for a good amount of elements depending, though it doesn't mean everything is clear cut.

    Not that there is much point on trying to assume what is right or wrong exactly unless you are told exactly why, or worked in the company and know.
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Talents wrote: »
    He wasn't responsible for New World. He worked on it but wasn't a lead on it.

    If working on something == responsible for it then I'm afraid to tell you Ashes has an employee that used to work on Chronicles of Elyria.
    Bill Trost was Creative Director for New World. I dunno how that does not count as a Lead.
    Ombwah is a Senior Quest Designer for Ashes - not Lead Quest Designer.

    Creative Director does not mean Amazon Execs cannot dictate that their game must be more PvE friendly.
  • Mag7spyMag7spy Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    Talents wrote: »
    He wasn't responsible for New World. He worked on it but wasn't a lead on it.

    If working on something == responsible for it then I'm afraid to tell you Ashes has an employee that used to work on Chronicles of Elyria.
    Bill Trost was Creative Director for New World. I dunno how that does not count as a Lead.
    Ombwah is a Senior Quest Designer for Ashes - not Lead Quest Designer.

    Creative Director does not mean Amazon Execs cannot dictate that their game must be more PvE friendly.

    That is actually interesting, didn't know he was the creative director and new world was designed as more of a survival pvp mmorpg to begin with before all the changes.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Honestly, I completely forgot they filled this role.
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  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Hoping to see Bill join Steven and Margaret on the devstreams soon.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    i thought tnw director was scot lane. bill is listed as additional design under nw credits.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    well, this is the credits page from new world...

    https://www.newworld.com/en-us/game/credits-launch

    bill is listed as additional design.
  • ZokofZokof Member, Alpha Two
    I've been an EQ player since the beginning, and Kunark and Velious are some of my favorite expansions. I'm hoping he can bring some of that magic to Ashes!
  • HarlowHarlow Member, Alpha Two
    Hi Bill, glad the guy that made a lot of the games I spent years and years playing is on the team! We're in good hands (always were, but even more so now)!
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