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About the AoC Community , Jahlon and Narc.

MybroViajeroMybroViajero Member, Alpha Two
edited July 2023 in General Discussion
We must make things clear as the AoC community that we are.

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We are not equal, we will not be and we can never be.
Here in this community there are players with more than 30 years of experience in video games as players who do not even reach 5 years of experience.
Here in this community there are players who are totally PvErs as well as totally PvPers.
Here in this community there are players who are in favor of many of the ideas of Intrepid and its developers as well as players who are against many of the ideas of Intrepid and its developers.

We all have many differences that characterize us as an MMORPG community but we all also have one thing that characterizes us as an AoC community, we have the hope, whether small or large, that AoC will surprise us by developing and creating an MMORPG that we will be excited and happy to play.

So, for that reason alone is that day after day, week after week or maybe months/years after months/years we hang around here to know/discuss/criticize/research/opine/support MMORPGS knowledge for AoC just and only for that small hope that gives us that one reason to be here.

I refuse to believe that among the people with whom I grew up watching AoC improve month after month, year after year there are people that instead of trying to improve the community they put obstacles between themselves because those people with whom I grew up watching AoC improve are also the people that make AoC improve in one way or another, in a bigger or smaller way.

I admire the content creators of AoC very much, they must look for gold in a field that is not yet ready to give it, trying to survive and grow at the same time with the little they get.
I ADMIRE THEM A LOT.

That is why thanks to this admiration that has been growing hand in hand with the growth of AoC is that I do not understand why there are people who try to put obstacles to other people who are only trying to create, improve a healthy and clear environment for the AoC community to travel through the development of which AoC is immersed.

AoC is not developing alone, it is also developing an environment around it, an environment that can affect it in a greater or lesser way or enhance it in a greater or lesser way, that environment is us the AoC community and therefore putting obstacles between us is also putting obstacles to the growth of AoC.

As I said before, we are not equal, we will not be and we can never be, but that does not prevent us, the community that wants to see AoC succeed, to improve as AoC is doing.

What Jahlon provoked and demonstrated with what happened with Narc could open a door through which the AoC community would be seriously affected and therefore could also affect AoC. Abusing the system maliciously is simply disgusting.
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What Narc did using Jahlon as content in the form of mockery or parody is what a person would do playing Russian roulette with someone who has a very egocentric temperament.
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Neither of them have any responsibility at the moment of saying how or why they will make such type of content or why or how they do things.
However they do have a greater responsibility to have many AoC followers behind them who watch them day in and day out, they paint a path for the AoC community and if that path starts to have obstacles then so will AoC.


It doesn't matter if you like Jahlon's adult, crude, serious and even sometimes arrogant , angry and disrespectful content or you like Narc's clownish, cheerful, provocateur , stupid , young, funny content, both are content creators that paint a direction in the path of AoC's development, that path by which its community is slowly going waiting for new news, information, entertainment from two of the most influential and constant creators for now.
Putting an obstacle to another content creator who helps a lot or little to AoC without first having the decency and education to talk about any problem that has happened and caused some discomfort is not and will never be the right way to solve things.

We are the AoC community a community that for years has been criticized with the speech of supporting a pyramid scam but we always got ahead because we knew that there were developers like Steven, Margaret and many other great developers who were working day and night to create that hope that keeps us here for years.That's why we definitely don't need to fight or put obstacles between us, we need all the support and positive work (be it criticism or support) that we can to improve as a community because really a video game, especially a MMORPG without a strong, united community that wants to see things improve has no future.

I wholeheartedly hope that things are fixed and improve , a community that is trying to improve and make the best of itself as the video game that follows does not deserve that kind of treatment , does not deserve that kind of negativity , does not deserve that kind of obstacles , there are many more of us who want to generate a positive environment , whether critical or white king , but an environment where we are sure that we work together to improve and not to put obstacles.

Sorry if it bothers anyone that I give my opinion on that controversial topic , I'm really no one compared to content creators like Narc , Jahlon or others , developers or people who are here since 2016/2017 , I'm just a very passionate person who would really like to see AoC succeed as AoC reflects many positive things that I consider the genre needs but above all reflects much of the dreams and ambitions that MMORPGS players have lost over the years.
I just want to see AoC succeed, that's all.


Thanks for trying to be the community that the MMORPG genre needs and not the one it deserves.
Greetings and lots of positive energy.

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Mybroviajero the dark elf.
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Comments

  • GarrtokGarrtok Member, Alpha Two
    Honestly I don't care at all about influencer drama. If someone got insulted by someone ban him. Story over.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
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  • NerrorNerror Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I understand the message and have seen the videos, but I also vote that we don't pursue this further on this forum.
  • Mag7spyMag7spy Member, Alpha Two
    edited July 2023
    This is norm stuff you have to remember they content creators lol. Its always a matter of time until someone starts abusing the system like everywhere else.

    Its funny that he mentions it is both ways though, that is golden. Yotubers should know the rules, the most important is you don't copyright strike.

    Asmongold says he will back narc though, if it is false and done out of spite over a 1 min clip narc should just take it to the next level if he has backing. The more Jahlon talks the more evidence he is giving to losing a case.

    @Garrtok For smaller youtubers it is different than larger ones, effectively if all your small amount of money comes from youtuber/twitch, and that gets cut off you are kind of screwed and can't grow. That is why the guy said he was glad he wouldn't get partnered he is out to hurt his living income. You would have to put your shows in a position where you don't have a lot of money and someone tried to end your job or your growth.
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    It's up to us as Ashes fans to ignore them out of existence. Without the brainless zombie hordes that shamble along to their equally brainless streams, they're the nothings they deserve to be.

    The biggest problem is those zombies that continue to watch and subscribe, allowing the content-regurgitato.... ahem, content "creators" to self-justify their arrogance.
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • Mag7spyMag7spy Member, Alpha Two
    daveywavey wrote: »
    It's up to us as Ashes fans to ignore them out of existence. Without the brainless zombie hordes that shamble along to their equally brainless streams, they're the nothings they deserve to be.

    The biggest problem is those zombies that continue to watch and subscribe, allowing the content-regurgitato.... ahem, content "creators" to self-justify their arrogance.

    Asmongold will turn you into a fan.
  • LinikerLiniker Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited July 2023
    We are a small community, and we all just want a good game. While I do disagree with jahlon not only in his views but also in his behavior, I don't like cancel culture.

    lets stop with the drama and be nice, we had enough on the discord already, steven addressed this, apparently jahlon is removing the copy strike, and he is getting the consequences of his actions, I think that's enough. I'd like to ask if @Vaknar or @Roshen can please lock this thread so we don't go down this rabbit whole.
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  • ClintHardwoodClintHardwood Member, Alpha Two
    edited July 2023
    Bro really wrote a speech about some drama. I'll be honest, couldn't get past paragraph two.
  • VaknarVaknar Member, Staff
    edited July 2023
    Liniker wrote: »
    We are a small community, and we all just want a good game. While I do disagree with jahlon not only in his views but also in his behavior, I don't like cancel culture.

    lets stop with the drama and be nice, we had enough on the discord already, steven addressed this, apparently jahlon is removing the copy strike, and he is getting the consequences of his actions, I think that's enough. I'd like to ask if @Vaknar or @Roshen can please lock this thread so we don't go down this rabbit whole.


    Well said, @Liniker. We all just want a good game!

    Let's keep conversations civil. I'd love to go back to focusing on all the information dropped during this last stream, and focus less on content creator drama, personally <3
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  • MybroViajeroMybroViajero Member, Alpha Two
    edited July 2023
    Liniker wrote: »
    We are a small community, and we all just want a good game. While I do disagree with jahlon not only in his views but also in his behavior, I don't like cancel culture.

    lets stop with the drama and be nice, we had enough on the discord already, steven addressed this, apparently jahlon is removing the copy strike, and he is getting the consequences of his actions, I think that's enough. I'd like to ask if @Vaknar or @Roshen can please lock this thread so we don't go down this rabbit whole.
    I understand, if you think I join the wave of cancellation ok , I find it understandable. My intention was the opposite, but I seem to have sinned of ingenuous.

    I understand that you are closing this topic, I'm fine with that.
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  • RazThemunRazThemun Member, Alpha Two
    I just want a good game. I like Narc's content and I like Jahlons content. What they do on their own time is up to them. I will not unsub from either or bash either. In the end this is a video game.... is it truly that serious? Probably not. They are fighting about a game "that quite literally does not exist". Good luck to the community as we continue waiting for AOC release. Play other games in the meantime and just tune in to the content creator of your choosing when the time comes. They all have something to offer in knowledge when it comes to the progress intrepid has made each given month.
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