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Tab Targeting vs Curser Targeting?

RavicusRavicus Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
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Has there been any discussion on tab targeting vs curser targeting? Tab targeting of course is hitting the tab key and cycling through enemy targets. Curser targeting is when you will attack with your equipped weapon whenever you click the left mouse button. You must aim the reticle at an enemy to make sure your attacks hit.
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    AzheraeAzherae Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    Ravicus wrote: »
    Has there been any discussion on tab targeting vs curser targeting? Tab targeting of course is hitting the tab key and cycling through enemy targets. Curser targeting is when you will attack with your equipped weapon whenever you click the left mouse button. You must aim the reticle at an enemy to make sure your attacks hit.

    Extensive discussion, which part are you interested in?

    If you want official positions from Intrepid, https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Hybrid_combat 
    Sorry, my native language is Erlang.
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    RavicusRavicus Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Azherae wrote: »
    Ravicus wrote: »
    Has there been any discussion on tab targeting vs curser targeting? Tab targeting of course is hitting the tab key and cycling through enemy targets. Curser targeting is when you will attack with your equipped weapon whenever you click the left mouse button. You must aim the reticle at an enemy to make sure your attacks hit.

    Extensive discussion, which part are you interested in?

    If you want official positions from Intrepid, https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Hybrid_combat

    Oh nice, I have been looking at the wiki but there is so much content there. Thank you for the link. I was wondering which one is planned to be in the game or if there was an option for both. I will go look at the wiki now. Thanks again.
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    AzheraeAzherae Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    Ravicus wrote: »
    Azherae wrote: »
    Ravicus wrote: »
    Has there been any discussion on tab targeting vs curser targeting? Tab targeting of course is hitting the tab key and cycling through enemy targets. Curser targeting is when you will attack with your equipped weapon whenever you click the left mouse button. You must aim the reticle at an enemy to make sure your attacks hit.

    Extensive discussion, which part are you interested in?

    If you want official positions from Intrepid, https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Hybrid_combat

    Oh nice, I have been looking at the wiki but there is so much content there. Thank you for the link. I was wondering which one is planned to be in the game or if there was an option for both. I will go look at the wiki now. Thanks again.

    Right now the answer is 'it's complicated', so please ask any additional questions you have after reading that page, and I'm sure someone will answer them. 
    Sorry, my native language is Erlang.
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    SathragoSathrago Member
    There is kind of an option for both currently in the works, leaning heavily towards tab-targeting though. Here's a video where its showcased.

    https://youtu.be/0257a-goFwE
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    RavicusRavicus Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Azherae wrote: »
    Ravicus wrote: »
    Azherae wrote: »
    Ravicus wrote: »
    Has there been any discussion on tab targeting vs curser targeting? Tab targeting of course is hitting the tab key and cycling through enemy targets. Curser targeting is when you will attack with your equipped weapon whenever you click the left mouse button. You must aim the reticle at an enemy to make sure your attacks hit.

    Extensive discussion, which part are you interested in?

    If you want official positions from Intrepid, https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Hybrid_combat

    Oh nice, I have been looking at the wiki but there is so much content there. Thank you for the link. I was wondering which one is planned to be in the game or if there was an option for both. I will go look at the wiki now. Thanks again.

    Right now the answer is 'it's complicated', so please ask any additional questions you have after reading that page, and I'm sure someone will answer them.

    Yep, right now it suggests that there will be an option to toggle between both, which I really like. Its nice if you are an archer and use the reticle from an advantage position.
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    RavicusRavicus Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Sathrago wrote: »
    There is kind of an option for both currently in the works, leaning heavily towards tab-targeting though. Here's a video where its showcased.
    Sweet. Watching it now.
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    SathragoSathrago Member
    edited July 2023
    Ravicus wrote: »
    Sweet. Watching it now.

    Its definitely not exactly what you think when you are expecting an aim option, but with some work I think it will get close enough that people will like it for that sort of style gameplay.
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    FantmxFantmx Member, Phoenix Initiative, Royalty, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    The hybrid system is most definitely complicated.

    I'm personally tab target all the way for the most part. Kind of depends on the class I am playing.
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    PhlightPhlight Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    Job and situation depended for me. The option is nice to have esp. in a larger scale pvp fight with hundreds of targets.
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    ShabooeyShabooey Member
    edited July 2023
    Definitely in favour of cursor targeting myself but know lots of people are opposite so it's pretty cool that AoC are trying to cater for both audiences.
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    CROW3CROW3 Member
    So many conversation over this. You may want to search for hard (tab) v. soft (reticle) targeting.
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    SolvrynSolvryn Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    It’s tab targeting at the moment. Nothen really hybrid about it. Which sucks because tab is just sequence memorization.
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    TryolTryol Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    edited July 2023
    Great question, unfortunately this is an MMORPG so it wouldn't make much sense.

    Let me give you some links to games that have implemented it perfectly:
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/730/CounterStrike_Global_Offensive/
    https://www.callofduty.com/warzone
    https://www.fortnite.com/
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    SolvrynSolvryn Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    Tryol wrote: »
    Great question, unfortunately this is an MMORPG so it wouldn't make much sense.

    Let me give you some links to games that have implemented it perfectly:
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/730/CounterStrike_Global_Offensive/
    https://www.callofduty.com/warzone
    https://www.fortnite.com/

    I’ll do you one better,

    Darkfall, Darkfall Unholy Wars, Conq Blade, New World, TERA also did it.

    It makes perfect sense in a mmorpg.
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    RocketFarmerRocketFarmer Member
    Kind of like the idea of targeting things by cursing at them. Can we get that feature voice activated?
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    Raven016Raven016 Member
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Tryol wrote: »
    Great question, unfortunately this is an MMORPG so it wouldn't make much sense.

    Let me give you some links to games that have implemented it perfectly:
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/730/CounterStrike_Global_Offensive/
    https://www.callofduty.com/warzone
    https://www.fortnite.com/

    I’ll do you one better,

    Darkfall, Darkfall Unholy Wars, Conq Blade, New World, TERA also did it.

    It makes perfect sense in a mmorpg.

    In Mortal Online 2 you can even miss your target and heal the enemy by mistake.
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    SathragoSathrago Member
    Raven016 wrote: »
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Tryol wrote: »
    Great question, unfortunately this is an MMORPG so it wouldn't make much sense.

    Let me give you some links to games that have implemented it perfectly:
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/730/CounterStrike_Global_Offensive/
    https://www.callofduty.com/warzone
    https://www.fortnite.com/

    I’ll do you one better,

    Darkfall, Darkfall Unholy Wars, Conq Blade, New World, TERA also did it.

    It makes perfect sense in a mmorpg.

    In Mortal Online 2 you can even miss your target and heal the enemy by mistake.

    Don't remind me lol. I tried playing mage and between the server delay and my horrible point and click aiming things never got hit.
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    rocsekrocsek Member, Founder, Kickstarter
    RocketFarmer wrote: »
    Kind of like the idea of targeting things by cursing at them. Can we get that feature voice activated?

    https://voiceattack.com/ - Have fun :)
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