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If you have Alpha Two, you can download the game launcher here, and we encourage you to join us on our Official Discord Server for the most up to date testing news.
Unreal 5.3 question
Nerror
Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
I watched this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POwTaVZ_CA0
But it leaves me with some questions. For example, nanite for landscapes, can they easily convert the existing landscapes in Ashes to use nanite? Or is it one of those labour intensive tasks if they want to use it? I am hoping some of you have experience with this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POwTaVZ_CA0But it leaves me with some questions. For example, nanite for landscapes, can they easily convert the existing landscapes in Ashes to use nanite? Or is it one of those labour intensive tasks if they want to use it? I am hoping some of you have experience with this.
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Nanite now being completely implemented across static meshes, foliage and landscapes rounds out pretty much all the places you'd want to have high fidelity meshes.
Hopefully the inhouse custom tools are built upon the standard engine tooling and can just pass through the Nanite flags like shown in that vid.
Also the volumetric effects uplift is very promising for spells and environments.
Ashes could be UE6+ by then.
it took 5 years to go from UE3 to UE4 - and 8 years to go from UE4 to UE5,
so unless you think Ashes will release by +2030 theres no way we'd get to UE6 ahah
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I tried to see if anyone is doing such conversion. I found that people are doing it
https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/nanite-conversion/1203090
https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/nanite-nightmare/1204503 (same user but in the nightmare stage
I don't understand if are small easy to fix problems or which require much work.
In this one
https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/activating-nanite-destroys-meshes/522994
we see that it all starts by checking a checkbox.
Especially if they keep upgrading to the newest version of UE and also take time to adjust based on tester feedback.
I expect it will be almost 3 years from Alpha 1 to Alpha 2.
I would not be surprised to eventually hear a Steven hype of "Before 2030".
How long has it taken to get a Nodes 3?? How many years has it taken just to release the Religious Node Type and Military Node Type articles for the Know Your Nodes Series?
so if alpha 2 isnt years away..and it will persist until launch, and lets say a2 is in 2025, will they really have an a2 that lasts for 5 years? XDDD really?
btw u can still make art and do lots of things even if you are upgrading your tools...you gonna get a few delays here and there, sure, but that doesnt mean everybody completely stops working for months until the tools are upgraded
The crux of the argument is they don't have anything developed based on the intentions of the game. Yet we know in alpha 2 the only node level they won't have is the final one. And alpha 2 isn't years away as they ramp up for it.
Bias in this point feels like bias against the game and a dislike assuming the worse and feeling as if the messaging the dev's said is not true in their current progression.
This point would be better if alpha 2 was released and they could point out all the features that are not finished and say why it will take them 6 more years to finish the game....
But... alpha 2 players payed quite a lot to get access and are the type of players who like to buy monthly expensive cosmetics, which cost more than the monthly subscription.
There are more cases:
1) if the vast majority of alpha 2 players stop playing -> Steven will have to improve the game -> more development time
2) if the vast majority of alpha 2 players keep playing -> costs are covered and possibly can be more profitable because we will be able to see and enjoy the cosmetics right away
Those who don't want to pay for Alpha 2 access are less likely to buy cosmetics. They will mostly pay only for the monthly subscription. How many PvX players could be? In any case, Alpha 2 must reach in the end a very good state to generate hype and only after that is worth releasing the game.
I don't expect A2 to last 5 years. I'm also factoring in Beta 1 and Beta 2 time.
It'd certainly be interesting if they beat out Baldur's Gate on that, though the two things aren't exactly the same.
@Nerror - I'm poking the people to poke the people, might have something solid-ish in the 'answer' department by tomorrow, might not.
Cool, thanks
betas will be really short compared to alpha
I can't personally speak on the technical side of the transition. However, I assume there are resources out there for a better understanding of Unreal Engine!
Which reminds me.
She has no clue, and the ones she knows has no clue either.
This is partially related to the way that landscaping is built from the ground for certain games, because it involves some stuff that you might be more familiar with, basically coordinate spawned... well, think MineCraft.
So, no clear answers but guessing says strong yes, they can, based on what's been shown recently.
vaknar pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee i need these 2 questions answered by steven. ive been suffering for years not knowing.
will buffs in aoc will be as important as buff in l2, or just a nice add on but not required?
and will one bard without changing subs / augments be able to buff everybody no matter their build or damage type, or will you need more than one bard n party to keep everyone buffed?
Does nanite affect glitching through terrain? Accidentally or on purpose.
Thank you for asking
Whether the update will happen before A2 is live or not is questionable, as on one hand having A2 out and then updating the engine would probably be a better call from a testing pov.