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PvX raid and boss discussion

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  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Taerrik wrote: »
    I think that, this ties back into open world design vs instanced design. An open world boss should account for pvp and change its mechanics when pvp is happening, to harass all parties involved and not just the one thats been fighting it the whole time.
    And majority of big bosses have aoe skills or aoe mechanics. Say the boss does immediately retargets to a newly flagged person. The PK alt would just need to be right on the healer, so that the aoe hit/mechanic gets the healer as well.

    This could also be 2 coordinated players that attack 2 healers at a staggered time, so even if the first one gets hit by the boss but fails to get the healer down with him - there's still a back up. Again, these kinds of strats will just depend on how valuable the boss is and/or how much the attackers want to fuck over their victims.
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Taerrik wrote: »
    In a game where theres more than 1 healer, and combat reses, if a single healer goes down equals a raid wipe, should probably question what the other healers were doing in the first place
    Yeah. In Ashes, the entire group can be Secondary Archetype Clerics, so... killing the Primary Archetype Cleric does not inherently mean the group dies easily aftewards.

    I still don't understand why the one group is bringing PK alts but the other group is not bringing Combatants.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    I still don't understand why the one group is bringing PK alts but the other group is not bringing Combatants.
    Because it's an attempt to fuck over the opponent at the smallest cost to yourself, while potentially gaining the biggest reward.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    op didnt consider corruption
  • TaerrikTaerrik Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Depraved wrote: »
    op didnt consider corruption

    I did make the comment during discussion that, at least in my opinion, open world raid zones should be corruption free areas.
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  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    what i mean is, i can go and kill your group when the boss is at 10% and i should get full rewards from the boss. but guess what? now im corrupted.

    Don't restrict players. if you are trying to kill a boss in a game with open world pvp, you should be prepared to pvp
  • TaerrikTaerrik Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I think, you are misreading the OP and discussions in the thread. I invite you to read them.

    Me and every poster in here has been in support of pvp happening. All the discussion has been on how to encourage pvp, and to discourage PK alts that allow someone to attack a team at no risk to their main group.

    The point has always been, if a group wants to claim the loot from a boss another group is fighting, they should be prepared to fight for it legit, and not use alts because they are afraid to fight.
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  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    Dygz wrote: »
    I still don't understand why the one group is bringing PK alts but the other group is not bringing Combatants.
    Because it's an attempt to fuck over the opponent at the smallest cost to yourself, while potentially gaining the biggest reward.
    LMAO
    Gamers are insane, yes.
    Players; not so much.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    Taerrik wrote: »
    I think, you are misreading the OP and discussions in the thread. I invite you to read them.

    Me and every poster in here has been in support of pvp happening. All the discussion has been on how to encourage pvp, and to discourage PK alts that allow someone to attack a team at no risk to their main group.

    The point has always been, if a group wants to claim the loot from a boss another group is fighting, they should be prepared to fight for it legit, and not use alts because they are afraid to fight.

    u know how to discourage pk alts? stat dampening. the alts will die to the other players and the other players will not even turn purple.

    the moment u turn red when theres 945885 ppl doing a boss, thats the moment you explode.
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