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The Possible Racial Contentions of Verra

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  • TyranthraxusTyranthraxus Member, Alpha Two
    Solvryn wrote: »
    I'm not really into the racey roleplay stuff others are, I'm just into respect. You either respect Verra and respect the fact Tulnar never left or you do not....

    Lol - @Solvryn Um... wanna guess what side yours truly is on?
  • SolvrynSolvryn Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Tyranthraxus wrote: »
    Solvryn wrote: »
    I'm not really into the racey roleplay stuff others are, I'm just into respect. You either respect Verra and respect the fact Tulnar never left or you do not....

    Lol - @Solvryn Um... wanna guess what side yours truly is on?




    Your comments read that you’re not for Tulnar.

    Why?
  • Enigmatic SageEnigmatic Sage Member
    @Solvryn my guess is they're in favour of elves since they dont like tulnar and took jabs at dwarfs haha
  • SolvrynSolvryn Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    @Solvryn my guess is they're in favour of elves since they dont like tulnar and took jabs at dwarfs haha

    If they wanna roleplay being an Empyrean that thinks Verra is their birth right go for it.

    A few thousand years and being split from proto elves says otherwise.
  • Enigmatic SageEnigmatic Sage Member
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    @Solvryn my guess is they're in favour of elves since they dont like tulnar and took jabs at dwarfs haha

    If they wanna roleplay being an Empyrean that thinks Verra is their birth right go for it.

    A few thousand years and being split from proto elves says otherwise.

    :smile: haha. Hypothetically if the elves that left are in their true forms and the ones remained were transformed into tulnar... who really is the proto :wink:
  • SolvrynSolvryn Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    @Solvryn my guess is they're in favour of elves since they dont like tulnar and took jabs at dwarfs haha

    If they wanna roleplay being an Empyrean that thinks Verra is their birth right go for it.

    A few thousand years and being split from proto elves says otherwise.

    :smile: haha. Hypothetically if the elves that left are in their true forms and the ones remained were transformed into tulnar... who really is the proto :wink:

    The four races split into the sub ethnic groups on Sanctus.

    Empyrean don’t have a claim to Verra.

    Tulnar do, they’re the four races plus minor ones.
  • Enigmatic SageEnigmatic Sage Member
    edited October 2023
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    @Solvryn my guess is they're in favour of elves since they dont like tulnar and took jabs at dwarfs haha

    If they wanna roleplay being an Empyrean that thinks Verra is their birth right go for it.

    A few thousand years and being split from proto elves says otherwise.

    :smile: haha. Hypothetically if the elves that left are in their true forms and the ones remained were transformed into tulnar... who really is the proto :wink:

    The four races split into the sub ethnic groups on Sanctus.

    Empyrean don’t have a claim to Verra.

    Tulnar do, they’re the four races plus minor ones.

    from the wiki
    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Races

    Tulnar (pronounced Tull-nar[17][18]) is a playable race in Ashes of Creation.[59][5] The (ancestors of) the Tulnar fled to the Underrealm to escape the Corruption that befell Verra.[60]

    The Tulnar is a combination of four major races and many minor races that were left behind on Verra after the apocalypse.[61][62][63][5]

    Minor races
    Minor races on Verra include Giants, less reputable sects of Humans, Gnomes, and half-bloods of different races.[6]

    I see what you mean :smile:

  • SolvrynSolvryn Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    @Solvryn my guess is they're in favour of elves since they dont like tulnar and took jabs at dwarfs haha

    If they wanna roleplay being an Empyrean that thinks Verra is their birth right go for it.

    A few thousand years and being split from proto elves says otherwise.

    :smile: haha. Hypothetically if the elves that left are in their true forms and the ones remained were transformed into tulnar... who really is the proto :wink:

    The four races split into the sub ethnic groups on Sanctus.

    Empyrean don’t have a claim to Verra.

    Tulnar do, they’re the four races plus minor ones.

    from the wiki
    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Races

    Tulnar (pronounced Tull-nar[17][18]) is a playable race in Ashes of Creation.[59][5] The (ancestors of) the Tulnar fled to the Underrealm to escape the Corruption that befell Verra.[60]

    The Tulnar is a combination of four major races and many minor races that were left behind on Verra after the apocalypse.[61][62][63][5]

    Minor races
    Minor races on Verra include Giants, less reputable sects of Humans, Gnomes, and half-bloods of different races.[6]

    I see what you mean :smile:

    Aye. Like I said people can RP being a racist all they want but being good at PvP is a whole other beast.
  • Enigmatic SageEnigmatic Sage Member
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    @Solvryn my guess is they're in favour of elves since they dont like tulnar and took jabs at dwarfs haha

    If they wanna roleplay being an Empyrean that thinks Verra is their birth right go for it.

    A few thousand years and being split from proto elves says otherwise.

    :smile: haha. Hypothetically if the elves that left are in their true forms and the ones remained were transformed into tulnar... who really is the proto :wink:

    The four races split into the sub ethnic groups on Sanctus.

    Empyrean don’t have a claim to Verra.

    Tulnar do, they’re the four races plus minor ones.

    from the wiki
    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Races

    Tulnar (pronounced Tull-nar[17][18]) is a playable race in Ashes of Creation.[59][5] The (ancestors of) the Tulnar fled to the Underrealm to escape the Corruption that befell Verra.[60]

    The Tulnar is a combination of four major races and many minor races that were left behind on Verra after the apocalypse.[61][62][63][5]

    Minor races
    Minor races on Verra include Giants, less reputable sects of Humans, Gnomes, and half-bloods of different races.[6]

    I see what you mean :smile:

    Aye. Like I said people can RP being a racist all they want but being good at PvP is a whole other beast.

    all part of the fun as long as the discrimination is directly related to the fantasy world :smile:
  • SolvrynSolvryn Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    @Solvryn my guess is they're in favour of elves since they dont like tulnar and took jabs at dwarfs haha

    If they wanna roleplay being an Empyrean that thinks Verra is their birth right go for it.

    A few thousand years and being split from proto elves says otherwise.

    :smile: haha. Hypothetically if the elves that left are in their true forms and the ones remained were transformed into tulnar... who really is the proto :wink:

    The four races split into the sub ethnic groups on Sanctus.

    Empyrean don’t have a claim to Verra.

    Tulnar do, they’re the four races plus minor ones.

    from the wiki
    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Races

    Tulnar (pronounced Tull-nar[17][18]) is a playable race in Ashes of Creation.[59][5] The (ancestors of) the Tulnar fled to the Underrealm to escape the Corruption that befell Verra.[60]

    The Tulnar is a combination of four major races and many minor races that were left behind on Verra after the apocalypse.[61][62][63][5]

    Minor races
    Minor races on Verra include Giants, less reputable sects of Humans, Gnomes, and half-bloods of different races.[6]

    I see what you mean :smile:

    Aye. Like I said people can RP being a racist all they want but being good at PvP is a whole other beast.

    all part of the fun as long as the discrimination is directly related to the fantasy world :smile:

    Heheheh
  • MionikoiMionikoi Member, Alpha Two
    Just don't get any funny ideas of copying the Thalmor.
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  • Thoghli RamheartThoghli Ramheart Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    @Solvryn my guess is they're in favour of elves since they dont like tulnar and took jabs at dwarfs haha

    Truth!
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  • TeemEmuricaTeemEmurica Member, Alpha Two
    Look at that pitiful monke, begging, like we're charity.
  • SolvrynSolvryn Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Thoghli Ramheart wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    @Solvryn my guess is they're in favour of elves since they dont like tulnar and took jabs at dwarfs haha

    Truth!

    We are gonna drop a stone on their head.
  • MionikoiMionikoi Member, Alpha Two
    Solvryn wrote: »
    Thoghli Ramheart wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    @Solvryn my guess is they're in favour of elves since they dont like tulnar and took jabs at dwarfs haha

    Truth!

    We are gonna drop a stone on their head.

    Is this after they are buried up to their necks?
    MY Own NIckle Co-operates with an EYE. -Mīonikoī.
  • KilionKilion Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 2023
    While this is indeed a fantasy world with its own unique circumstances and conflicts, the same priniciples as in reality apply: You can refuse to cooperate with other races and band together with your kind over that stance, but since that means rejecting potentially high performing allies, the groups who do not care about race but only merit/utility will have a good chance at outperforming the "racist" faction(s) in the long run.

    And that is a brilliant backdrop for a community driven storyline running parallel to the story arcs that are unfolding on Verra by design of Intrepid. I think it is also a chance to learn the consequences of siding with either of these factions. Generally speaking: As long as this conflict is kept to the game world, I think it is something the game can benefit from allowing.

    On the same note: It is worth remembering that younger players might have more trouble distinguishing between ingame & IRL so maybe a tooltip that participation is optional in these kinds of things could help or an age restriction of 12+. Heck, Intrepid could even continue it's livestreams and pick out some of these more "adult" topics and discuss them, inviting for example players of factions on one of these servers that play out such a race driven conflict to show less experienced players how this is part of the game and not reality.

    Suffice to say: I'd love to see a more serious approach of these topics in the game, without adding "mandatory racism lectures" about it.
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  • SathragoSathrago Member
    Im going to be really sad if they try some goofy "we all like each other startrek academy" shenanigans with the races. These are not advanced, enlightened societies from what we have been told. They have been stuck in medieval fantasy tech for thousands of years, shoved into an alternate world devoid of magic with each other and I expect racism, stereotypes, and weird cultural differences that rub the different sides the wrong way.

    If you dont have these things you make this extremely hard to connect with world that is something beyond make-believe. Just us humans in the world today have so many differences and problems with each other, I can only imagine the severity and differences between different intelligent species. Oh also there's magic and corruption mixed into this to even further muddy the waters.

    Give us Warcraft(1,2, and 3), not hearthstone.
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  • Enigmatic SageEnigmatic Sage Member
    @Sathrago are they not aiming for an ESRB rating of E for everyone? I'd be surprised if we got a T rating. It's definitely not going to be a M. They don't even want blood in it lol.
  • MionikoiMionikoi Member, Alpha Two
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    @Sathrago are they not aiming for an ESRB rating of E for everyone? I'd be surprised if we got a T rating. It's definitely not going to be a M. They don't even want blood in it lol.

    I kind of find it hard to see to pull off eith how online games are these days. Most MMOs seem to be rated M, but I think that is do strongly because of an adult community and weakly due to content.

    ESO is rated M, and the language, themes, violence, and 'blood' is on the tamed side. Because it lacks gore, and most references to drugs would go over a casual player's head. It doesn't have nudity (or Sanguine for that matter.)

    Most MMOs are kinda watered down that way, I think.

    So M rated for community reasons.
    MY Own NIckle Co-operates with an EYE. -Mīonikoī.
  • Enigmatic SageEnigmatic Sage Member
    edited October 2023
    Mionikoi wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    @Sathrago are they not aiming for an ESRB rating of E for everyone? I'd be surprised if we got a T rating. It's definitely not going to be a M. They don't even want blood in it lol.

    I kind of find it hard to see to pull off eith how online games are these days. Most MMOs seem to be rated M, but I think that is do strongly because of an adult community and weakly due to content.

    ESO is rated M, and the language, themes, violence, and 'blood' is on the tamed side. Because it lacks gore, and most references to drugs would go over a casual player's head. It doesn't have nudity (or Sanguine for that matter.)

    Most MMOs are kinda watered down that way, I think.

    So M rated for community reasons.

    I remember a thread over a year ago that was talking about this. I believe thematically they were/are aiming for a family friendly ESRB. I doubt it would be rated M even though a majority of the players may be in that margin. The design wont be overly violent, sexual or bloody and gore.

    I see an ESRB of T being the highest based on everything we've seen.

    https://www.esrb.org/ratings-guide/

    It could be an M but design wise it's a T
  • mobtekmobtek Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    "Look I'm not prejudiced per se, we are all Verrans but...excuse me a moment...*loads 'one-of-those' prisoners into a catapult*..now what was I saying? Oh yes, Fire!"
    ;)
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    mobtek wrote: »
    "Look I'm not prejudiced per se, we are all Verrans but...excuse me a moment...*loads 'one-of-those' prisoners into a catapult*..now what was I saying? Oh yes, Fire!"
    ;)

    arent we sanctusians? or whats the actual word xDD
  • SolvrynSolvryn Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Depraved wrote: »
    mobtek wrote: »
    "Look I'm not prejudiced per se, we are all Verrans but...excuse me a moment...*loads 'one-of-those' prisoners into a catapult*..now what was I saying? Oh yes, Fire!"
    ;)

    arent we sanctusians? or whats the actual word xDD

    You're Sanctonians if you're from Sanctus.

    You're native Verrans if you're Tulnar.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    my elven kids will be verrans ;3
  • SolvrynSolvryn Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Depraved wrote: »
    my elven kids will be verrans ;3

    Yes they will.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    and there will be no tulnars left ;3
    or orcs or dwarfs
    not even humans
  • SolvrynSolvryn Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Depraved wrote: »
    and there will be no tulnars left ;3
    or orcs or dwarfs
    not even humans

    Depraved, you give me the vibe you like thicc orc mommies.

    Don't lie.

  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    i mean id spank them but thats it
  • MionikoiMionikoi Member, Alpha Two
    Depraved wrote: »
    and there will be no tulnars left ;3
    or orcs or dwarfs
    not even humans
    I see we have an elf supremacist bent on genocide of all other races. You sharp ears haven't learned your lesson. Thus, cue the 'Star Made Knight's' theme song.

    MY Own NIckle Co-operates with an EYE. -Mīonikoī.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    even the other elf wanna be from the woods will either be exterminated or turned into servants ;3
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