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religion, but no religious wars... have you ever heard anything more naive?

MoisMois Member, Alpha Two
in General Discussion
humans are playing, right?
what do you expect?

if i roleplay an extremist, should i expect a ban?
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  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    No one's stopping your divine node from doing a DEUS VULT on any other divine node.
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    Absolutely. These are the kinds of things that players themselves can arrange in this player-driven world. It doesn't need set-up by Intrepid.
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/


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  • SweatycupSweatycup Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    If you play a extremist and treat others like a extremist like making real life threats against players or breaking the game EULA id expect a ban. But no, conflict is good otherwise. You dont like your nodes choice of religion, screw them time to betray and or siege to get that religion you want. Religious centric guilds exsist just as we have guilds created around race.
  • KilionKilion Member, Alpha Two
    If you want to RP a religious fanatic, by all means do so.
    Howevver if you were found to attack players for what they believe in real life, you'd probably end up banned and with an investigation on how you found out these private informations about the person playing. XD
    The answer is probably >>> HERE <<<
  • syldonsyldon Member, Warrior of Old, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Considering the carnage religious extremism has done in the world, why would you want it in a game?
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  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 2023
    syldon wrote: »
    Considering the carnage religious extremism has done in the world, why would you want it in a game?

    I can't tell if you are serious or not. I take my hat off to you sir.
  • KilionKilion Member, Alpha Two
    syldon wrote: »
    Considering the carnage religious extremism has done in the world, why would you want it in a game?

    If you think that games should not depict that religion - like any other sort of belief - can go horribly overboard, I suggest not buying games that advertise amongst other things having religion in them.
    The answer is probably >>> HERE <<<
  • VeeshanVeeshan Member, Alpha Two
    Could be a divine node policy, holy war which give a slight bonus defence against players from the node they declared a holy war against :p
  • KilionKilion Member, Alpha Two
    Veeshan wrote: »
    Could be a divine node policy, holy war which give a slight bonus defence against players from the node they declared a holy war against :p

    I guess if divine nodes have the Bishop as an exclusive office that would basically be exactly that right?
    The answer is probably >>> HERE <<<
  • AzheraeAzherae Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Isn't Ashes' religion pantheonic?

    I feel like Pantheistic religions don't generally infight so much that you have to consider it 'war time'...

    Interesting to think about.
    ♪ One Gummy Fish, two Gummy Fish, Red Gummy Fish, Blue Gummy Fish ♪
  • Enigmatic SageEnigmatic Sage Member
    edited October 2023
    Azherae wrote: »
    Isn't Ashes' religion pantheonic?

    I feel like Pantheistic religions don't generally infight so much that you have to consider it 'war time'...

    Interesting to think about.

    polytheist/polytheism is the word you're looking for :smile: which can be pantheon based.
  • AzheraeAzherae Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    Azherae wrote: »
    Isn't Ashes' religion pantheonic?

    I feel like Pantheistic religions don't generally infight so much that you have to consider it 'war time'...

    Interesting to think about.

    polytheist/polytheism is the word you're looking for :smile: which can be pantheon based.

    I meant it relative to the religion itself. Though I guess that terminology doesn't make sense in the first place.

    Anyways, grati, more data for the parser.
    ♪ One Gummy Fish, two Gummy Fish, Red Gummy Fish, Blue Gummy Fish ♪
  • CawwCaww Member, Alpha Two
    did I miss the intro??
  • Enigmatic SageEnigmatic Sage Member
    Azherae wrote: »
    Enigmatic Sage wrote: »
    Azherae wrote: »
    Isn't Ashes' religion pantheonic?

    I feel like Pantheistic religions don't generally infight so much that you have to consider it 'war time'...

    Interesting to think about.

    polytheist/polytheism is the word you're looking for :smile: which can be pantheon based.

    I meant it relative to the religion itself. Though I guess that terminology doesn't make sense in the first place.

    Anyways, grati, more data for the parser.

    oh haha. They do and they dont? Looking at pagan viking and roman/greek religions, they fought in the name of the same gods against each other :smile:

    I see what you're saying though
  • TyranthraxusTyranthraxus Member, Alpha Two
    Heyyy.... Maybe this will be a world in which different religions can exist side-by....

    Aw, nevermind. Being from Planet Earth IRL? I can't even finish typing it out.




  • George_BlackGeorge_Black Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    $ is your only religion and yall know it.
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    Mois wrote: »
    humans are playing, right?
    what do you expect?

    if i roleplay an extremist, should i expect a ban?

    Actually you make a very interesting Point here - as i have heard nothing from Religions or Gods aside from that there are "good Gods" - and "evil Gods",

    so i assume You either serve a "goodwilled Faith", or an "evil Faith" dependent from what for Religions/Faiths you are planning to serve and worship.


    Long Story short -> it is not in my Memory if Sir Steve and his fellow Developers planned for Conflict between for Example the good and evil kinds of Faiths/Religions.


    But i can imagine that the good Ones are in Conflict with the evil Ones.

    So maybe we will actually see Battles between Religions in Ashes of Creation unfold, sooner or later.
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  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    No one's stopping your divine node from doing a DEUS VULT on any other divine node.

    NOBODY expects the Dünir-Inquisition !! (lol)

    Purge and cleanse ALL THOSE filthy Heretics from the Face of this beautiful World who do not honor the Cities under the Mountains and the glorious Dwarven Forges that keep them going !!

    The Dwarf-God wills it !! ( :D ) 🤣 😅
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  • SongcallerSongcaller Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Aszkalon wrote: »
    NiKr wrote: »
    No one's stopping your divine node from doing a DEUS VULT on any other divine node.

    NOBODY expects the Dünir-Inquisition !! (lol)

    Purge and cleanse ALL THOSE filthy Heretics from the Face of this beautiful World who do not honor the Cities under the Mountains and the glorious Dwarven Forges that keep them going !!

    The Dwarf-God wills it !! ( :D ) 🤣 😅

    Sounds like I need to kill some Dwarves to get into some Books of Grudges.
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  • YukineYukine Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    A divine-quisition? May the Tulnar's prayers reach our Pantheon to grant us the power needed to defend their great world against a purge from the heretics! We must protect this beautiful world regardless of the cost!
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  • syldonsyldon Member, Warrior of Old, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Kilion wrote: »
    syldon wrote: »
    Considering the carnage religious extremism has done in the world, why would you want it in a game?

    If you think that games should not depict that religion - like any other sort of belief - can go horribly overboard, I suggest not buying games that advertise amongst other things having religion in them.

    I am not against the concept of RP. Each to their own. Extremism is a different matter and not one that should be accepted into RP. I suggest you read what I said and not make inferences that are not there.
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  • KilionKilion Member, Alpha Two
    syldon wrote: »
    Kilion wrote: »
    syldon wrote: »
    Considering the carnage religious extremism has done in the world, why would you want it in a game?

    If you think that games should not depict that religion - like any other sort of belief - can go horribly overboard, I suggest not buying games that advertise amongst other things having religion in them.

    I am not against the concept of RP. Each to their own. Extremism is a different matter and not one that should be accepted into RP. I suggest you read what I said and not make inferences that are not there.

    I did read it and my point still stands: RPing an extremist of an INGAME faith is completely acceptable as long as the whole matter is kept ingame. Especially since there is no real line between "normal" and "extreme" faith.
    The answer is probably >>> HERE <<<
  • FantmxFantmx Member, Phoenix Initiative, Royalty, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I am a little disappointed there is not a more direct way to act against religions in game but there will be opportunities. I am not sure I would call that extremist though.
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  • Raven016Raven016 Member
    Those who follow The Others will be in conflict with those who follow The Seven.
    If The Seven are not in conflict with each other, they'll not encourage conflict between their followers.
    But let's see how Steven sees The Seven.
  • Raven016Raven016 Member
    George_Black wrote: »
    $ is your only religion and yall know it.
    Right. Resources protect nodes.
    If you have to upgrade defence towers or build a temple, towers might be the better choice in a conflict zone.
    Gods will not save the poor.
  • TyranthraxusTyranthraxus Member, Alpha Two
    We've purposefully received VERY little on religions, in the pre-game info, thus far. A couple of the monthly Q&A questions yours truly were addressed by SS, who wants it all to be first experienced, in-game; He let us know that he didn't want to answer the questions I've had addressed.

    For all we know? The three dark gods could mis-understood, or just have opinions that vary from the Seven; It could be a matter of *freedom*.

    I highly suspect we'll see some big twist about the Goddess of Creation. Maybe she wants to be the ONLY god, for example....
  • NerrorNerror Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited October 2023
    A big difference between Verra and the real world is that the gods actually exist in Verra. How the gods feel about each other would absolutely affect the level of animosity between the inhabitants of the game world.

    In RL, the gods aren't real and all the hostility is purely human.

    It's entirely possible that infighting between the Seven is minimal at worst, and by extension between their followers.
  • SylvanarSylvanar Member
    edited November 2023
    All religions at their inception are peaceful (whispers... because of low number of followers). Similarly when Verra will spawn (launch) the practitioners of all religions can be expected to co-exist. As and when the influence of each religion spreads, bad-actors (fanatics) will sow discord and cause large scale conflicts.

    Yadda Yadda Yadda, maybe it can be an expansion feature.
    "Suffer in silence"
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Ashes is not a Faction war game.
    There won't be lore for that among The Seven.
    Servers might create Faction wars.
    We can expect some conflict as players vie for top positions on the Religion progression leader boards.
  • GuajatuGuajatu Member, Alpha Two
    Azherae wrote: »
    Isn't Ashes' religion pantheonic?

    I feel like Pantheistic religions don't generally infight so much that you have to consider it 'war time'...

    Interesting to think about.

    Really...
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