How long will alpha two last?

Just curious on how long you guys think alpha two will last

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Raven016 wrote: »

Dygz wrote: »

Keep in mind that the gap between Alpha 1 and Alpha 2 is longer than Steven originally thought it would take them to release the game.

What they were doing?
They seem to hire more and more now. They describe how they work reaching milestones...
in the interview with you he said that the core parts are ready.
Unless they decide to rework some features or add new things which cannot be moved into an expansion, they have to decide based also on how other competing MMOs are getting ready to release.

well going from unreal 4 to 5 was pretty much a hard reset to some degree on there progress, although doing something a 2nd time is much quicker than doing it the first time so it like a partial restart

Enigmatic Sage

Alpha 2 = 12 to 18 months (systems, races and all classes need to be in)

Beta 1 & 2 = 8 to 12 months (balancing and polishing)

That's my guess. They may even throw in a short Open Beta Phase for marketing purposes and pre-launch stress testing.

daveywavey

I'm just excited to try making every single member of the Intrepid team, using the Character Creator.

TheHiddenDaggerInn

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Alpha 2 = 12 to 18 months (systems, races and all classes need to be in)

Beta 1 & 2 = 8 to 12 months (balancing and polishing)

That's my guess. They may even throw in a short Open Beta Phase for marketing purposes and pre-launch stress testing.

Beta will not be long, talking weeks, not months. I don't have the quote but pretty sure he has stated this somewhere along the line.

Enigmatic Sage

Santanico wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Alpha 2 = 12 to 18 months (systems, races and all classes need to be in)

Beta 1 & 2 = 8 to 12 months (balancing and polishing)

That's my guess. They may even throw in a short Open Beta Phase for marketing purposes and pre-launch stress testing.

Beta will not be long, talking weeks, not months. I don't have the quote but pretty sure he has stated this somewhere along the line.

You could be surprised how long the accumulative of beta phases could actually take especialy If they're doing a true testing system.

Veeshan

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Santanico wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Alpha 2 = 12 to 18 months (systems, races and all classes need to be in)

Beta 1 & 2 = 8 to 12 months (balancing and polishing)

That's my guess. They may even throw in a short Open Beta Phase for marketing purposes and pre-launch stress testing.

Beta will not be long, talking weeks, not months. I don't have the quote but pretty sure he has stated this somewhere along the line.

You could be surprised how long the accumulative of beta phases could actually take especialy If they're doing a true testing system.

Beta testing
The Beta-1 and Beta-2 testing phases of Ashes of Creation will be short.[142]

The game is intended to be feature-complete before Beta-1.[53]
Content wise, beta will have nearly everything release will have.[143] – Steven Sharif
Bear McCreary's music will be unveiled in Beta-1.[144]
Node types will be definitive (finalized).[145]
Beta testing of Ashes of Creation will be closed.[146]

Its on the wiki

Enigmatic Sage

Veeshan wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Santanico wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Alpha 2 = 12 to 18 months (systems, races and all classes need to be in)

Beta 1 & 2 = 8 to 12 months (balancing and polishing)

That's my guess. They may even throw in a short Open Beta Phase for marketing purposes and pre-launch stress testing.

Beta will not be long, talking weeks, not months. I don't have the quote but pretty sure he has stated this somewhere along the line.

You could be surprised how long the accumulative of beta phases could actually take especialy If they're doing a true testing system.

Beta testing
The Beta-1 and Beta-2 testing phases of Ashes of Creation will be short.[142]

The game is intended to be feature-complete before Beta-1.[53]
Content wise, beta will have nearly everything release will have.[143] – Steven Sharif
Bear McCreary's music will be unveiled in Beta-1.[144]
Node types will be definitive (finalized).[145]
Beta testing of Ashes of Creation will be closed.[146]

Its on the wiki

Short is relative in comparison to alpha stages. It's why I included Beta 1 & 2 together. Could even see an open Beta phase with it too.

RazThemun

Until launch... That could be one year... two years... three years... you get the idea.

nanfoodle

Most well staffed games can get a Reg MMO development in about a year of Alpha 2. Ashes is a game in a scope I have never seen before. The playable game space is about 6 times larger then say WoW that was about 200 square Km. But we are also using tools that speed up production. UE5 is just amazing world building tools and more. It would take someone way in the know to really nail down your question.

RocketFarmer

Two years to get all of the land-based stuffed worked plus another year to nail down the sea-based stuff.

Issue is they are tackling a huge scope, and there’s time required to do it right.

Aszkalon

Taerrik wrote: »

As long as it takes.

Still thinking of a Month or Two, maybe more.

If Sir Steven lets us test the Alpha Two for longer however, i certainly won't mind.

Smaashley

I feel like Alpha 2 will lasts between 2 and 3 years. I mean, all core aspects of the game (combat, gameplay, mechanics, archetypes and endgame content) must be good and replayable for me to pay 240$ CA/year and from what we have seen, it's not polished and doesn't have enough systems to keep players engaged without always doing the same thing. Better have a lot of content on release for that price. They didn't even show metropolis yet...

Azherae

Four years eight months.

WuqingYe

Since A2 is supposed to be persistent testing, and with A LOT of testers and newly added staff, I personally think A2 is at least 1 to 1 1/2 years long (with both Betas being a week-ish each for polish). It's fun to speculate and I know we're all ready to lose our minds once that official release date eventually drops haha

patrick68794

Caww wrote: »

kieff wrote: »

5-10 years or unntil he can milk some more people.

wrong.... that's Star Citizen...

No need to act like a child and throw accusations around about other games. SC is making genuine progress with every update that people get to experience first hand.

Especially on this forum where it currently costs nearly six times as much to get access to the alpha for AOC in 6-9 months, barring any potential delays, than it does to play SC's alpha today.

nanfoodle

It's a good question. I would love to hear from IS their guess but if it missed I'm sure the vultures would have a hay day with that.

I would love someone that had a good knowledge of UE5 and how much it speeds up production. Since Ashes made the switch, we have been getting allot of quality updates.

TheDarkSorcerer

I will say a year. Anything longer than 12 months is wild. Alpha 2 is merely an in-depth Q&A with all promised main systems in place. That is their time to edit, fine-tune and perfect. It's 2024, not the early 2000s with slower technology and limitations.

patrick68794

nanfoodle wrote: »

It's a good question. I would love to hear from IS their guess but if it missed I'm sure the vultures would have a hay day with that.

I would love someone that had a good knowledge of UE5 and how much it speeds up production. Since Ashes made the switch, we have been getting allot of quality updates.

Intrepid has already said that the alpha will run until release, so it's exactly however long it takes to get to full release from the day alpha 2 starts. The switch to UE5 won't be cutting years, or even months, off of development time as most of what will be time consuming will be their own custom code and asset creation

Tycan

I don't see a downside in having a long alpha 2 testing phase, it'll take as long it takes to get it right. At least that's what I hope Intrepid do!

nanfoodle

patrick68794 wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

It's a good question. I would love to hear from IS their guess but if it missed I'm sure the vultures would have a hay day with that.

I would love someone that had a good knowledge of UE5 and how much it speeds up production. Since Ashes made the switch, we have been getting allot of quality updates.

Intrepid has already said that the alpha will run until release, so it's exactly however long it takes to get to full release from the day alpha 2 starts. The switch to UE5 won't be cutting years, or even months, off of development time as most of what will be time consuming will be their own custom code and asset creation

Alpha 2 to beta 1 and 2. The code is part of UE5, there is no need to hard code. UE5 will speed up development, it's a big part of what it does. I have watched some presentations on it but by no means am I an expert.

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