Pre-Order Bundle Cosmetics Question

What are the odds of converting early access bundle cosmetics to embers?

For example I jumped on the last train to alpha and the bloody bone cosmetics, as impressive as they are, aren't my vibe. Very likely they'll gather the dust of ages never to be touched. If I was able to cash them in as a one time deal to spend on other cosmetics though, I'd get that much more mileage out of the bundle.

I understand this is pretty low hanging fruit and as a non-dev I don't know how much effort this ask actually involves, but thought it'd be worth asking.

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Enigmatic Sage

Odd's are usually against you. (math joke)

Taleof2Cities

If the cosmetics aren't your "vibe" don't make the purchase, Hydromance ... ?

$250 USD is a lot of money to spend on something you'll never use.

Not sure what the refund policy is, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

I'm sure there will be other opportunities to get into Alpha 2 between now and Q3 (e.g. giveaways).

unknownsystemerror

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Not sure what the refund policy is, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

It is on their main site. 90 days.

Thokan

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

If the cosmetics aren't your "vibe" don't make the purchase, Hydromance ... ?

$250 USD is a lot of money to spend on something you'll never use.

Not sure what the refund policy is, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

I'm sure there will be other opportunities to get into Alpha 2 between now and Q3 (e.g. giveaways).

You dont exactly buy the bundle just for the cosmetics now do you? Also, it's not like you got a choice, except earlier when you could wait a month and hope the next random cosmetics looks better.

That being said, there will be plenty of cosmetics down the line for scraps. The cosmetics feel important because there is nothing else and are attached to a huge price tag. Personally I dont even remember what cosmetics I got with the bundle, nor do I care. It's not why I got the bundle.

Vandar

have the same idea

Hydromance

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

If the cosmetics aren't your "vibe" don't make the purchase, Hydromance ... ?

$250 USD is a lot of money to spend on something you'll never use.

Not sure what the refund policy is, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

I'm sure there will be other opportunities to get into Alpha 2 between now and Q3 (e.g. giveaways).

Well obviously the cosmetics aren't $250. To that point they didn't even factor into my cost\benefit assessment. No one is about to lose out on the last opportunity for A2 access over the cosmetics, and I'm certainly not suggesting that either.

Being able to cash them in for cosmetic only currency would be a simple quality of life adjustment, one that I understand they've already implemented for crossbow skins. Again I recognize this is low hanging fruit, but it would be appreciated nonetheless.

chibibree

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

I'm sure there will be other opportunities to get into Alpha 2 between now and Q3 (e.g. giveaways).

In part this is true, in regards to buying a package vs. getting a giveaway.

Key differences though, are while you get access to A2 either way
Buying a pack:

Gives you A2 + B1 +B2 + 6 months game time.

Cosmetics + Cosmetic Currency

Getting a key:

Access to the current phase.

So If people want to buy in and knowing this is the last pack, and it has been since Oct/Nov, That's 3-4 months of not having the ability to look at a different skin unlike the rest of us who have been here a while.

I do think it would be a great quality of life thing to offer those who just recently joined our community, who wanted to participate A2 and beyond, but who just genuinely don't like the cosmetic style they ended up getting.

Also, this applies to other people who maybe had to get it at a time they could afford it but if they had waited, they may not have been able to use that money towards that anymore.

All in all, great idea @Hydromance

Enigmatic Sage

@chibibree the key is still the better deal.

chibibree

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

@chibibree the key is still the better deal.

I think that is subjective

Hydromance

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Odd's are usually against you. (math joke)

Never tell me the odds!

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

@chibibree the key is still the better deal.

If it was possible to just buy an alpha key, people would. As it stands, its a non-starter.

Enigmatic Sage

chibibree wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

@chibibree the key is still the better deal.

I think that is subjective

I suppose?

free vs an expense is the obvious.

Could probably get 6 months game time and not give them money for in-store credits which saves you money.
Better cosmetics in live version of the game.
Probably wont use your skins for caravans and freeholds as often due to the restrictions in-game.
Beta phases quite short supposedly.
Risk of getting bored/disappointed of the game before launch as things change during development especially since there is no box price.
Not to forget that these are just the end of the FOMO packs. They have hinted at possible other things.

Free definitely seems like the better end of the deal in my opinion

chibibree

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

I suppose?

free vs an expense is the obvious.

Could probably get 6 months game time and not give them money for in-store credits which saves you money.
Better cosmetics in live version of the game.
Probably wont use your skins for caravans and freeholds as often due to the restrictions in-game.
Beta phases quite short supposedly.
Risk of getting bored/disappointed of the game before launch as things change during development especially since there is no box price.
Not to forget that these are just the end of the FOMO packs. They have hinted at possible other things.

Free definitely seems like the better end of the deal in my opinion

I see where you are coming from, which is why I said it was subjective haha.

For you, that is a better option, but maybe for someone else, they will want guaranteed access.

Both are valid for the person who is considering, but either way, if you are looking for a person to go in-game achievable cosmetic hunting, I'm your girl!

Hydromance

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

chibibree wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

@chibibree the key is still the better deal.

I think that is subjective

I suppose?

free vs an expense is the obvious.

Could probably get 6 months game time and not give them money for in-store credits which saves you money.
Better cosmetics in live version of the game.
Probably wont use your skins for caravans and freeholds as often due to the restrictions in-game.
Beta phases quite short supposedly.
Risk of getting bored/disappointed of the game before launch as things change during development especially since there is no box price.
Not to forget that these are just the end of the FOMO packs. They have hinted at possible other things.

Free definitely seems like the better end of the deal in my opinion

Low odds of free vs paying for a sure thing. Regardless, getting away from the point.

Enigmatic Sage

Hydromance wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Odd's are usually against you. (math joke)

Never tell me the odds!

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

@chibibree the key is still the better deal.

If it was possible to just buy an alpha key, people would. As it stands, its a non-starter.

haha

Assuming the key is a fair price, I bet most would have just bought that. So many better ways they would've crowd funded through these packs.

Referral program is kind of scummy. No point helping someone else play for free when you have to pay full price

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Referral_program

Enigmatic Sage

@Hydromance they wont allow to exchange for store credit last I checked. There have been threads like these that pop up quite often. There is no exchange, If you bought earlier packs it allowed you to buy cosmetics from the following FOMO packs though.

ChaffyJay

Look at the bright side, Hydro. If you can't turn them in, at least you have this piece of cosmetic that no one else will if you continue to play ten years later. That's worth something at least. Maybe we will have mannequins in housing we can stuff them in.

Enigmatic Sage

ChaffyJay wrote: »

Look at the bright side, Hydro. If you can't turn them in, at least you have this piece of cosmetic that no one else will if you continue to play ten years later. That's worth something at least. Maybe we will have mannequins in housing we can stuff them in.

lol.
They got 90 days from date of purchase to refund assuming the cosmetic doesn't mean more to them haha

Virtek

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

@chibibree the key is still the better deal.

You are right, in one single aspect: Free is better than paying. Very true! ^.^

Not so true when hoping for future access to test and provide feedback in future testing phases.

Virtek

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Referral program is kind of scummy. No point helping someone else play for free when you have to pay full price

I'd have to hard disagree on this point though. Nothing scummy about giving someone a bit of bonus for bringing you into a game you like. You don't even have to pay full price if you invite a friend or three.
It's like the "Friend Codes" in other games, except you get to choose how the bonus is spent. When compared with "you both get this one specific mount/pet/gadget that everyone else in the world gets," I think it's far superior.

Virtek

ChaffyJay wrote: »

Look at the bright side, Hydro. If you can't turn them in, at least you have this piece of cosmetic that no one else will if you continue to play ten years later. That's worth something at least. Maybe we will have mannequins in housing we can stuff them in.

Halloween Costume, if nothing else. Amirite?!?

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