Why are we copy pasting textures all over the map.

This looks so unprofessional. The tooltips for the spells are also wildly inconsistent with spelling.
I pre-realize that you forumites won't care about this, but when new people look at the game and see this shit it's a bad look. People already think this game is a scam, can we PLEASE STOP giving them more reasons with this low quality looking sh*t.

If parts of the riverlands aren't done, add fog of war to the map, seriously guys it's not that hard. Every fake thing that's added is one more real concern for people who aren't circulating the game, steven keeps asking us to advocate for the game and be patient with people who don't understand, these types of things do us 0 favors and I'm sick of seeing them.

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Liniker

seek help

Vissox

Liniker wrote: »

seek help

yeah or we could just not address it, your right. -250

Ludullu

I've criticized Intrepid on their presentation before, but this feels like a particularly pixel-fucky nitpick. Even on a 1440p monitor you gotta pay reaaaal close attention to see that repeating pattern, and even that only after noticing it due to your cirlces AND putting the map at full screen size.

And while I agree that having repeating patterns on the map is shitty, I do think we gotta see if the landmass itself is a copy paste job. And if it is - yeah, Intrepid fucked up at the same lvl as Amazon did with NW.

And it would be a fuckup even if this was the case of "our algorithm for landmass creation just so happened to spit out several copies of a location".

bloodprophet

https://intrepidstudios.com/careers

When you start getting a pay check then it is we. Until then this is why open development is so hard. People don't understand.

Syrea203

If I were you I'd just not install the game.

Vissox

bloodprophet wrote: »

https://intrepidstudios.com/careers

When you start getting a pay check then it is we. Until then this is why open development is so hard. People don't understand.

I'm using the royal we, not the literal we.
And you underlined my point. People don't understand, that's why these things have to be placed under the scrutiny of quality control, so it isn't placed under the scrutiny of the public.

Depraved

im sick and tired of 2 trees looking the same!!

Noaani

Vissox wrote: »

People don't understand, that's why these things have to be placed under the scrutiny of quality control

Quality control?

So, two questions;

1, do we know what is in these locations?

2, do we know if these are placeholders?

The first is important because if it is a similar structure in each location, the map should reflect this.

The second is important because placeholders are a real part of game development, and are kind of important. Going to the trouble of adding fog of war for a test - a time when people shouldn't be expecting launch level polish - is just silly.

nanfoodle

If this was release I would agree but it's not.

RocketFarmer

Because they aren’t going to spend the time on a temporary Alpha 2 map.

Recommend you disengage and come back at release. If you’re getting sick. Need to take care of your health, you know.

Vissox

Noaani wrote: »

Vissox wrote: »

People don't understand, that's why these things have to be placed under the scrutiny of quality control

Quality control?

So, two questions;

1, do we know what is in these locations?

2, do we know if these are placeholders?

The first is important because if it is a similar structure in each location, the map should reflect this.

The second is important because placeholders are a real part of game development, and are kind of important. Going to the trouble of adding fog of war for a test - a time when people shouldn't be expecting launch level polish - is just silly.

Explain to me how copy pasting in background is easier, more efficient, or cost effective compared to literally just leaving the unfinished parts of the world blank. That's all you have to do for fog of war bro, leave a texture layer of parchment or some shit in the background and add the rest. The copy paste nonsense is more effort not less. It is designed to deceive.

Caeryl

What's the issue supposed to be here, exactly? I don't see any obvious repeating textures even zoomed all the way in and looking at the circles you drew. It looks like a standard top-down map. Nothing noteworthy in either direction of praise or critique

Aszkalon

Vissox wrote: »

This looks so unprofessional.

The tooltips for the spells are also wildly inconsistent with spelling.

... ... ... ?

Vissox wrote: »

I pre-realize that you forumites won't care about this, but when new people look at the game and see this shit it's a bad look. People already think this game is a scam, can we PLEASE STOP giving them more reasons with this low quality looking sh*t.

S~oooooo ... ...

... ... ... you are convinced this Map doesn't look good enough ? Chances are that this might be only a Map to help out with Oversight for the Players - and that from Alpha Two on it will look quite different ingame.

If you are trolling - you do it very brilliantly and have me completely fooled.

( LoL, "Forumites" )

Vissox wrote: »

If parts of the riverlands aren't done, add fog of war to the map, seriously guys it's not that hard.

Every fake thing that's added is one more real concern for people who aren't circulating the game, steven keeps asking us to advocate for the game and be patient with people who don't understand, these types of things do us 0 favors and I'm sick of seeing them.

If you mean that the Map looks somewhat empty on some Places,

please mind that not everything You see where there is not a clear Structure - is "empty Land". In some Spots the Nodes can grow and replace the Wilderness with ever-expanding City-Areas and Freeholds around the Node.

And for Example the Highway/Hill(billy?lol) Bandit-Hills, or the Area with the Minotaur-Clan - and some other Places are also there - and there is NO. CLEAR. Structure or "Name" visible what might be inside that Area.

Relax. This is just a veeery basic Map. It doesn't mean the many Spots there are completely empty where there are no big Ruins, Cities, Castles, etc.

Electronn

Vissox wrote: »

your right

Then proceeds to lecture about quality control.

Ludullu

Caeryl wrote: »

What's the issue supposed to be here, exactly? I don't see any obvious repeating textures even zoomed all the way in and looking at the circles you drew. It looks like a standard top-down map. Nothing noteworthy in either direction of praise or critique

The circled locations all have the same pattern of land within them, just rotated one way or the other. You can see it by the circle with water and 3 dots close to it.

Noaani

Vissox wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Vissox wrote: »

People don't understand, that's why these things have to be placed under the scrutiny of quality control

Quality control?

So, two questions;

1, do we know what is in these locations?

2, do we know if these are placeholders?

The first is important because if it is a similar structure in each location, the map should reflect this.

The second is important because placeholders are a real part of game development, and are kind of important. Going to the trouble of adding fog of war for a test - a time when people shouldn't be expecting launch level polish - is just silly.

Explain to me how copy pasting in background is easier, more efficient, or cost effective compared to literally just leaving the unfinished parts of the world blank. That's all you have to do for fog of war bro, leave a texture layer of parchment or some shit in the background and add the rest. The copy paste nonsense is more effort not less. It is designed to deceive.

You realise game design is not like notepad, right?

Kilion

I honestly don't understand what is going on here. No matter what they would have done, some portion of players would always interpret that in the most pessimistic way possible. Like this:

No map = There is nothing really there.
Only basically finished zones = There is hardly anything there aside a few POIs and Nodes, no farming areas or anything else
The current map = Why so empty?
Detailed map of everything A2 will ultimately make available in the Riverlands = Vaporware, why show things that aren't implemented?

Are typos good? No and thats definitely something they need to pay much closer attention to, especially since they have AI tools, there should be a way to find typos before releasing the pages and articles. Then again, in the past this wasn't a problem - so since this is an open development process: What changed? Is this a result of the crunching?

But is it appropriate or helpful to get foul mouthed over this? No. Just no. This just adds another layer onto this for people who are new to the forums: Look at the community, do these people sound like they'd be fun to play with?

I think they way you phrased your concerns, no.

SmileGurney

The OP is right, Intrepid has been doing this for ages now, here is more visual evidence:

The new map
The old map

A clear proof AoC is vapourware!

nanfoodle

I just dont understand why some people cant grasp that these things are place holders. Putting large amount of time into place holders to make them look polished is a bad use of the staffs time.

patrick68794

what a useless post lol

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