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Steam..alts and bots?
Sutex
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The model AOC is using means it is more beneficial to team up than going solo in a PvX world, and I'm concerned that model could be underminded if AOC were placed on the Steam platform, allowing the creation of alt accounts, the bane of MMO's from bots to bad players.
As Ashes of Creation is a PvX game, it's my understanding that the game will have a punishment system for players who engage in outright "murder." For example, a solo player is chopping a tree, and someone else comes by and kills you. That action would greatly impact the murderer in AOC. NPC's would attack them because of their ill deeds when venturing near towns. So far, this is all very good.
The problem arises when those PVPers have alt accounts; their main character could stay out of towns butchering innocent players around the map while using the alt account to go into towns unopposed or vice versa. Then imagine a game where guilds are made of players who PvP innocent players to control resources because they have alt accounts.
To stop this from happening, I believe AOC should never be placed on the Steam platform to enforce one account per player, as I have no doubt bad actors would exploit the game via alt accounts if it were possible.
I could have all this completely wrong, and I hope I am.
As Ashes of Creation is a PvX game, it's my understanding that the game will have a punishment system for players who engage in outright "murder." For example, a solo player is chopping a tree, and someone else comes by and kills you. That action would greatly impact the murderer in AOC. NPC's would attack them because of their ill deeds when venturing near towns. So far, this is all very good.
The problem arises when those PVPers have alt accounts; their main character could stay out of towns butchering innocent players around the map while using the alt account to go into towns unopposed or vice versa. Then imagine a game where guilds are made of players who PvP innocent players to control resources because they have alt accounts.
To stop this from happening, I believe AOC should never be placed on the Steam platform to enforce one account per player, as I have no doubt bad actors would exploit the game via alt accounts if it were possible.
I could have all this completely wrong, and I hope I am.
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Mass PK were taken into account by the corruption system: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Definition:Corruption_score
And Steam does not guarantee the absence of bots or alt accounts.
But, indeed, alts provide an advantage, even outside of PvP. Alas, the average user of this forum is not familiar with what alts are capable of in the hands of an experienced multiboxer, and now you probably will see many “arguments” like “almost no one will play from two computers”, “there are no macros - it’s not convenient”, “paying for a two subscriptions is too expensive” and other nonsense
That would not fix the issue, why do people post drivel without understanding the problem. must be that need desperation to post
Just one thing, hello mulitbox!
The vote was fairly convincingly in favor of allowing it.
So, if someone wants to play Ashes with an alt account, they are welcome to do so.
However, the issues you are talking about arn't really a thing in Ashes.
In a number of games, many of the penalties you suffer from negative PvP (how ever each game determins it), can be either fulfilled or circumvented by downtime. Sitting in prison, waiting for your corruption (or equivlent) to lower while offline, that kind of thing.
In Ashes, that won't happen. If you have an alt account and you go off killing with it until the character is essentially non-functional in terms of PvP, there is no option to just wait out that penalty. You need to work it off.
If you log out and come back a year later, you still have that penalty there to work off.
The only thing you are circumventing via a second account is "reputation" with other players, but that can be circumvented by just having a regular alt on the same account.
Since you resort to insults to make a point about how much you know, "Just one thing, hello mulitbox!" I would prefer you didn't open your mouth in my direction again
I view alt accounts as cheating, since if there were no advantage to the player over other players by having an alt account, they wouldn't be doing it. The fact that it's allowed when I wouldn't means I would be at a disadvantage.
If someone is multiboxing in a game like Ashes, they are an easier kill than someone that isn't multiboxing - if you know the weaknesses of multiboxing.
It isn't an advantage to have multiple accounts, it is an added challenge.
My motivation is simple if you had read the first post: fair and square game play, which means one account per player; others defending the Alt account "multiboxing" should check their motivation first before casting disparaging remarks on mine.
Isn't an alt acct in AoC a separate paid account? And therefore available to everyone?
I feel the 'thats P2W' argument is coming and I disagree.
With that argument, someone who can afford a cutting edge PC would also be considered benefiting from P2W.
I built my PC in 2019. I'll post my system specs and demand everyone matches it or you're all cheaters! Logical?
See, this is my point.
You are assuming that people that multibox are doing so as a means to gain an advantage, when in fact multiboxing in a game like Ashes is a distinct disadvantage.
People that are going to do it will do it for an added challenge, not to gain an advantage.
Fact is, the issue you raised in the OP was proven to be completely off base, not an issue at all, and not something one would need multiple accounts to circumvent even if it were an issue.
So you've just shifted your focus somewhere else (multiboxing), which is equally not an issue for Ashes, do to the above fact that it is a disadvantage if you go up against anyone that has a clue.
Sure that is why many player wouldmulti box "for the challenge". You can use a blindfold or tie a hand be hand your back to add a challenge too. Maybe just stay lv5 for a even more "hardcore" experience?
You could.
Or you could multibox.