Cleric Self Healing

Makakao

Hey!

I’ll be on the server soon, playing a healer as I’ve done for 15 years in other games. Apologies for my English in advance, since it’s not my first language.

Through my research on the Cleric class, I found that our guild’s clerics struggle with self-healing. I understand there’s a defensive bar, which feels odd when spells like Judgment can hit both allies and enemies, similar to Quick Wit for Bards.

Is there a key setup like in other MMOs, or can I self-heal if I don’t have a target?

Do you have any tips for cleric self-healing? What is your preferred way to self-heal?

Azherae

You can press F1 to target yourself and then use any of your heals. I use Healing Touch to heal myself.

If you are using the Mend skill, you can use the F1-8 keys to target yourself or party members, and you can change target while using consecutive presses of Mend.

If you are using Mend, it heals you faster than it heals allies because there is no 'healing projectile travel time'.

alexpetr2023

Flash Cure is also a powerful instant heal that can be used on yourself without needing a target

Makakao

Azherae wrote: »

You can press F1 to target yourself and then use any of your heals. I use Healing Touch to heal myself.

If you are using the Mend skill, you can use the F1-8 keys to target yourself or party members, and you can change target while using consecutive presses of Mend.

If you are using Mend, it heals you faster than it heals allies because there is no 'healing projectile travel time'.

Thanks for the advice Azherae, I really appreciate it.

By pressing f1, my target does change. Is it only the defensive one or the general one?

And how does the defensive bar work with offensive and defensive skills like Judgment or Quick Wit?

Makakao

alexpetr2023 wrote: »

Flash Cure is also a powerful instant heal that can be used on yourself without needing a target

If I have no defensive target and no friendly target, it automatically targets me, you mean?

alexpetr2023

yes

Azherae

Makakao wrote: »

Azherae wrote: »

You can press F1 to target yourself and then use any of your heals. I use Healing Touch to heal myself.

If you are using the Mend skill, you can use the F1-8 keys to target yourself or party members, and you can change target while using consecutive presses of Mend.

If you are using Mend, it heals you faster than it heals allies because there is no 'healing projectile travel time'.

Thanks for the advice Azherae, I really appreciate it.

By pressing f1, my target does change. Is it only the defensive one or the general one?

And how does the defensive bar work with offensive and defensive skills like Judgment or Quick Wit?

Those can change depending on which type of targeting you are using. There are also additional settings which control the behaviour of your mouse cursor and target lock-on.

It's difficult to give a specific answer because of that. You should ask your guild's clerics if they are targeting with the Action Mode Camera, and if they are using the healing settings that make mouse-over healing work correctly while having an offensive target.

I believe that the behaviour of the F1-keys changes only the defensive target, but I am not sure how Judgement works in all situations because of those things I mentioned above.

Makakao

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Makakao

Azherae wrote: »

Those can change depending on which type of targeting you are using. There are also additional settings which control the behaviour of your mouse cursor and target lock-on.

It's difficult to give a specific answer because of that. You should ask your guild's clerics if they are targeting with the Action Mode Camera, and if they are using the healing settings that make mouse-over healing work correctly while having an offensive target.

I believe that the behaviour of the F1-keys changes only the defensive target, but I am not sure how Judgement works in all situations because of those things I mentioned above.

Oh, I've always been a fan of mouse over healing with raid frames. Does this work in Ashes?

If it does can you explain to me how to setup?

Azherae

Makakao wrote: »

Azherae wrote: »

Those can change depending on which type of targeting you are using. There are also additional settings which control the behaviour of your mouse cursor and target lock-on.

It's difficult to give a specific answer because of that. You should ask your guild's clerics if they are targeting with the Action Mode Camera, and if they are using the healing settings that make mouse-over healing work correctly while having an offensive target.

I believe that the behaviour of the F1-keys changes only the defensive target, but I am not sure how Judgement works in all situations because of those things I mentioned above.

Oh, I've always been a fan of mouse over healing with raid frames. Does this work in Ashes?

If it does can you explain to me how to setup?

Sorry, I'm actually not familiar with it, I don't usually use raid frame and I actually play on controller and have my F1-F8 keys bound to L2+Right Analog Stick like a ring menu so I don't use mouseover healing either.

This thread may help you, starting at the comment that the link takes you to (I believe everyone has access to this subforum now):
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/480239/#Comment_480239

But if not, maybe @Dezmerizing is around and can help with this.

Dezmerizing

Azherae wrote: »

Makakao wrote: »

Azherae wrote: »

Those can change depending on which type of targeting you are using. There are also additional settings which control the behaviour of your mouse cursor and target lock-on.

It's difficult to give a specific answer because of that. You should ask your guild's clerics if they are targeting with the Action Mode Camera, and if they are using the healing settings that make mouse-over healing work correctly while having an offensive target.

I believe that the behaviour of the F1-keys changes only the defensive target, but I am not sure how Judgement works in all situations because of those things I mentioned above.

Oh, I've always been a fan of mouse over healing with raid frames. Does this work in Ashes?

If it does can you explain to me how to setup?

But if not, maybe @Dezmerizing is around and can help with this.

I actually have not seen these in the settings as I played ranger 90% of the time and thus did not need mouse over settings (I will see if I can enable it on Friday though.)

Quoting @oatmllk from the A2 forums:
"there is mouseover healing, i heal with mouseover. Its in the settings called "hover healing" or something thats not exactly mouseover but means the same thing. Some of the spells do not work with it, like mend and judgement. but some spells like soothing and flash heal do.
thats my most wanted QoL change rn"

I bet @Leukael or any of the other cleric players from A2 can give better guidance if necessary!

Makakao

Dezmerizing wrote: »

Azherae wrote: »

Makakao wrote: »

Azherae wrote: »

Those can change depending on which type of targeting you are using. There are also additional settings which control the behaviour of your mouse cursor and target lock-on.

It's difficult to give a specific answer because of that. You should ask your guild's clerics if they are targeting with the Action Mode Camera, and if they are using the healing settings that make mouse-over healing work correctly while having an offensive target.

I believe that the behaviour of the F1-keys changes only the defensive target, but I am not sure how Judgement works in all situations because of those things I mentioned above.

Oh, I've always been a fan of mouse over healing with raid frames. Does this work in Ashes?

If it does can you explain to me how to setup?

But if not, maybe @Dezmerizing is around and can help with this.

I actually have not seen these in the settings as I played ranger 90% of the time and thus did not need mouse over settings (I will see if I can enable it on Friday though.)

Quoting @oatmllk from the A2 forums:
"there is mouseover healing, i heal with mouseover. Its in the settings called "hover healing" or something thats not exactly mouseover but means the same thing. Some of the spells do not work with it, like mend and judgement. but some spells like soothing and flash heal do.
thats my most wanted QoL change rn"

I bet @Leukael or any of the other cleric players from A2 can give better guidance if necessary!

Thanks for the input. I really think that Auto attack + mouseover should be the optimal playstyle for Cliric PvE. PvP is very situational.

daveywavey

Azherae wrote: »

I use Healing Touch to heal myself.

Depraved

Azherae wrote: »

You can press F1 to target yourself and then use any of your heals. I use Healing Touch to heal myself.

If you are using the Mend skill, you can use the F1-8 keys to target yourself or party members, and you can change target while using consecutive presses of Mend.

If you are using Mend, it heals you faster than it heals allies because there is no 'healing projectile travel time'.

there is still a delay with mend when you self heal.

Makakao wrote: »

Hey!

I’ll be on the server soon, playing a healer as I’ve done for 15 years in other games. Apologies for my English in advance, since it’s not my first language.

Through my research on the Cleric class, I found that our guild’s clerics struggle with self-healing. I understand there’s a defensive bar, which feels odd when spells like Judgment can hit both allies and enemies, similar to Quick Wit for Bards.

Is there a key setup like in other MMOs, or can I self-heal if I don’t have a target?

Do you have any tips for cleric self-healing? What is your preferred way to self-heal?

you can use f1 or right click to target yourself and heal (I prefer this one but you have to turn it on in the settings). your fastest self heals are flash heal and healing touch(I don't use it though). consecrating wave also heals you without even targeting yourself (so this one is probs faster).

I'm always fine just using deliverance or communal restoration though. haven't had any issues with self healing, except for that one bug when I'm fighting mobs and healing myself wont work. I've noticed it happens after alt tabbing (and noticed my pvp got turned on automatically)