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Tank - THEEEEE worst solo class

VasorionVasorion Member, Alpha Two
in Tank Archetype
Hello, I play as a Tank.
I want to say that this is an amazing class when we go into dungeons. It tanks really well and holds aggro effectively. However, when I can’t find a group, the Tank becomes absolutely useless in solo play. When everyone on the server is offline, I can’t explore, level up, or farm monsters alone. Fighting monsters is nearly impossible because of the lack of damage. I can only handle monsters that are lower level than me.
I understand, of course, that this is a social game designed for group play. However, when you need to level up alone, it’s nearly impossible. It’s almost completely impossible to earn any experience on your own.
I really hope that when you rebalance the classes, you will add more damage to the Tank, so it becomes viable for solo play. I’m counting on you for this.

Comments

  • EndowedEndowed Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited November 2024
    Its bad. Needs to have a full time toggle that removes threat from all attacks and doubles the damage. And no, not Grit. Grit is fine, but changes nothing for solo play.
  • VasorionVasorion Member, Alpha Two
    Thats the point.
  • IustinusShivaIustinusShiva Member, Alpha Two
    I'm not seeing that much of a damage output differential soloing tank compared to bard, the difference is bard has more self-heals and a 'get away' option.

    though my tank is built different than most, with magic power for intimidating aura damage. I wouldn't know what a physical power tanks damage is typically.
  • IustinusShivaIustinusShiva Member, Alpha Two
    edited December 2024
    It seems to me after thinking about it that Grit reducing damage output is a bit of a double penalty. It provides the same physical mitigation that Mark of the Bear does (8%, even though the tt says 10%) so when soloing it winds up being exactly the same as the ranger buff and rangers don't need to reduce their damage output for it.
    Penalizing tank damage by 25% for a core defensive ability when the tank's damage is already low as a baseline seems silly. The only thing that separates a tank from a ranger in heavy amour is these abilities - grit is our passive damage reduction, and the ranger's has no penalties other than the opportunity cost of not choosing a hunt that increases their dps.

    Realistically then, our powers should do baseline the same damage a rangers does if grit remains the way it does - rangers dps comes from their choice of hunt and marks.
  • VasorionVasorion Member, Alpha Two
    IustinusShiva wrote: »
    It seems to me after thinking about it that Grit reducing damage output is a bit of a double penalty. It provides the same physical mitigation that Mark of the Bear does (8%, even though the tt says 10%) so when soloing it winds up being exactly the same as the ranger buff and rangers don't need to reduce their damage output for it.
    Penalizing tank damage by 25% for a core defensive ability when the tank's damage is already low as a baseline seems silly. The only thing that separates a tank from a ranger in heavy amour is these abilities - grit is our passive damage reduction, and the ranger's has no penalties other than the opportunity cost of not choosing a hunt that increases their dps.

    Realistically then, our powers should do baseline the same damage a rangers does if grit remains the way it does - rangers dps comes from their choice of hunt and marks.

    Totally agree with you! I am planning to read the patch notes and then decide what class to play. If they don’t add DPS to Tank, I think I’ll consider playing Ranger.
  • rtfmxrtfmx Member, Alpha Two
    I agree, something needs to be done with the tank. At the moment, the tank resembles a disabled person who is simply not able to raise the level on his own. I play a mage and was in a party with a tank and he did 0 damage, although he is a higher level than me. The tank is a very necessary class, but people are scared off by its helplessness. This is very, very sad.
  • RfaliasRfalias Member, Alpha Two
    Tank can start soloing around 16 pretty easily (and slowly) once you get the final tier of skills and some ok gear. Never expect a tank to do DPS, it's not their role. As a level 20 with decent gear, I still basically do no damage. Grit reduces it further. It's just not a stat tanks need to care about IMO.

    Does it make soloing ass? Sure does!
  • ELWOWELWOW Member, Alpha Two
    edited December 2024
    IustinusShiva wrote: »
    I'm not seeing that much of a damage output differential soloing tank compared to bard, the difference is bard has more self-heals and a 'get away' option.

    though my tank is built different than most, with magic power for intimidating aura damage. I wouldn't know what a physical power tanks damage is typically.

    The thing and main problem is that you can have multiple bards in 8man group (often 2 is ideal but if you get like 3 it would also be okayish) where you only pick one tank per group no matter what. We struggle to get parties and some groups are also fine without a tank in a group. It means bards can easily get a spot in a group where we have to sometimes go solo grind if you are not in some static group. You can't compare these two...
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