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i bought phase 2 but believe the PvP system may hurt the game at release
Shinozuka
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I am in my 40s. I know.. OLD. I have played so many MMOs. I burned out a long time ago on open world always on PvP. I am a filthy casual, I admit it.
I like so much about what AoC is supposed to have at release. But, I am not a fan of the corruption system. I want to flag PvP off unless I want to PvP. Actually nowadays I prefer the battleground type PvP. Get in, PvP, leave.
I do NOT want to be chillin farming mats and some griefer run up and start thrashing on me. Like I said, I have played MANY MMOs. Modern day and old school. . But even back in Everquest and Asherons Call days I dint like being attacked while farming.
I believe most MMO players in 2024 are far more casual than in yesteryear . Long term I think the game will suffer if PvP cannot be flagged off.
I predict in a few years when AoC is released it will have many players short term. Then a large drop off after 3 months. The primary complaint will be the PvP system.
Again, I will be testing in phase 2 starting in late dec. So I will see what I think.
I like so much about what AoC is supposed to have at release. But, I am not a fan of the corruption system. I want to flag PvP off unless I want to PvP. Actually nowadays I prefer the battleground type PvP. Get in, PvP, leave.
I do NOT want to be chillin farming mats and some griefer run up and start thrashing on me. Like I said, I have played MANY MMOs. Modern day and old school. . But even back in Everquest and Asherons Call days I dint like being attacked while farming.
I believe most MMO players in 2024 are far more casual than in yesteryear . Long term I think the game will suffer if PvP cannot be flagged off.
I predict in a few years when AoC is released it will have many players short term. Then a large drop off after 3 months. The primary complaint will be the PvP system.
Again, I will be testing in phase 2 starting in late dec. So I will see what I think.
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The Corruption system is punishing, it's a PvX game. There are a ton of PvE titles you can play. If PvE's your thing, knock yourself out.
However as it currently is set for testing, it is pretty much opt-in PvP with the overtuning of corruption. But thats purely for testing needs at the moment.
Worry not. It won't hurt the Game any more than in all the other Topics which sounded "concerned" about what might hurt the Game at Release - and People will play it regardless.
This is the funthing about the Taste of People. You can never argue about it, because some to many People will always gobble up any Game anyway.
I am turning 40 next Year - so i can relate to pretty much all of this.
Sure. I "can" still engage in lots and lots of PvP - but compared to when i was around 20 - i tend to burn out faster regarding my Concentration.
Hourlong Battles will take all out of me. I think Sir Steven and his mighty Crew want to make for Example Node Sieges last Two Hours - won't they ?
This is gonna be good. Just not for me when i want to avoid a Headache.
I always get flagged now like Everyone else when i loot someone's Ashes.
Makes the Game a bit more spicey and fun for me. I know i did a naughty thing and People might come to send my Character into the Afterlife.
That is if they can catch and kill me.
Funnily,
this is EXACTLY the Reason why after Five to Six Years -> i finally quit Sea of Thieves for good. In that Game of all Games, i was never motivated to do PvP - and by PvP.
And for FIIIVE LOONNG YEARS -> my Brother and me on our humble Sloop avoided all kinds of toxic A~holes and People who live and breathe and play the Game only to try to piss off Others and to piss "on" Others.
When "Safer Sea's" came in,
- and i found out you can not even unlock Achievements and Items there in Peace,
because little RARE wants to force People further into this toxic Experience that is the High Sea's in Sea of Thieves -> we finally quit the Game for good.
Yes. Despite having both the Ghost- and Skeleton-Curse -> meaning we subjected Us to a looooooonnnnnnnng grind in this disgusting thing called the HourGlass WarMode.
Enough.
I have enough of pissy, edgy Eight- to Twelve Years olds telling me over their Hotmics that i shall suck their D***'s because they are pissy and toxic and unable most of the time to sink me.
I am not sure if " ASHES " will have Hotmics,
but damn You sure have to deactivate and mute them when You want to play Sea of Thieves sometimes.
The Hotmic worked in our Favour because my Brother and me rolled the DICE quite often for the Win and to avoid toxic PvP Matches which could easily last half to full an Hour every single time.
Unironically,
this never happened to me until now -> in the Alpha Two. I am aware however this might change towards Release or after Release.
I think Worst of Warcraft suffers more, in a way.
People "are safe" 100% of the time if they want -> and You can notice this in their patterns of Behaviour sometimes. You have the No-Brainer Crowd which moves so stiff and mechanical - that You might mistake Players for Bots sometimes. (lol)
You have the "slightly toxic Crowd" which reacts annoyed when You have a social Interaction with them.
Lastly You have the Crowd who literally "BEGS" you occasionally to Duel them. Because they never have One-versus-One Matches - and in Battlegrounds Dozens of People usually fight each other at the same time in the same Location.
Oh we will "DEFINITELY" have People who jump off Ship again because they are unsatisfied.
Even Sir Steven said this.
But this Game is not for Everyone - also something which Sir Steven said.
It is "supposed" to be that One, very Game of Thrones-like MMO - in which Players compete with each other AND fight each other as Armies if needed, for ingame-political Reasons.
And for the Thrill. And for the ever-changing Nodes on each Server.
✓ Occasional Roleplayer
✓ Guild is " Balderag's Garde " for now. (German)
You are essentially going to a pizza place and asking them to change the menu to a raw vegan buffet.
The core ideas of gameplay aren't compatible with what you want.
PvE focused: WoW / FFXIV / Lineage II
Sandbox: Ultima Online / Darkfall / Mortal Online
Big Influence: SNES Fighting games / Starcraft / Diablo II / Smite
That being said the corruption system in phase 1 has played very little effect since it very harsh right now and is never worth it to go corrupt in the current concept. However it is over tuned atm cause they didnt want to much ganking happening in phase 1 where they dont have all the corruption systems in place yet.
The self-centeredness of humans has been a blight on this world.
Harshly said but I feel that. I getting old and have my list of requests but I get the younger guys will mostly play better. Why should they be punished for my failings. Still gonna ask for larger fonts lol. I trust IS to keep the vision intact.
Age is just a number
Random pvp is fine but the way the game is right now the corruption is so buggy and essentially ineffective. just store/trade your gear to a friend and run into a npc guard. corruption gone no loss cept 2 mins of xp debt.
the game as it stands is a haven for pvp griefing and it makes everything else alot less testable, let alone fun.
98% of players died to PvE / Environment
2% of players died to PvP
Have to be pretty sensitive to complain about PvP happening in a PvX game
Caravans are intended to be group content.
What is with all these solo players begging for an MMO to change into a single player game.
Can we please have one, just one, group based game?
10g? man ur doing it wrong then :P my runs net me 110-120g for 1-1.3 hour trip :P
Pure PvP games?
I'm sorry who in this thread asked to get rid of PvE? No one cuz it's a PvX game.
If you don't want any PvE, Ashes isn't the game for you, if you don't want PvP, Ashes isn't the game for you, it's that simple. I.E PvX.
FBI OPEN UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
✓ Occasional Roleplayer
✓ Guild is " Balderag's Garde " for now. (German)