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Repeated Griefing

DarkiyaDarkiya Member, Alpha Two
edited January 6 in General Discussion
KRANKONHEALROIDS is an alt of TWITCHTVoHSLERTV who is training mobs on multiple groups in Carphin for over an hour.
Video:

He's been doing this while in shout chat for over an hour.

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  • DarkiyaDarkiya Member, Alpha Two
  • DarkiyaDarkiya Member, Alpha Two
    Griefing video
  • ragonrokragonrok Member, Alpha Two
    edited January 4
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    He does this every single day on lyneth. Above is a screen shot.
    Here is his twitch handle if you want to simply watch him do it live:
    twitch.tv/hslertv
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  • munroemunroe Member, Alpha Two
    KRANKONHEALROIDS AND TWITCHTVoHSLERTV has trained mobs onto me under both characters today for hours in two different groups. Everyone in global chat has been talking about it. he is just griefing all day in Carphin.
  • ehmaleeroehmaleero Member, Alpha Two
    KRANKONHEALROIDS AND TWITCHTVoHSLERTV just ran mobs over and over on multiple groups at Carphin over the last hour. He would purposefully do it to wipe them and then loot their bodies immediately, run away and let PvP flag fall off, then do it again.
  • ragonrokragonrok Member, Alpha Two
    https://twitch.tv/hslertv/clip/VastStrongHeronTooSpicy-9elRV0BmdTH6E-nq

    this is from his stream - hes not even trying to hide it
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  • ragonrokragonrok Member, Alpha Two
    he streamed all of his alts as well
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  • unknowncannibalunknowncannibal Member, Alpha Two
    Like how is this NOT a bannable thing? He says on this clip "you and your friends (I'm solo) aren't gonna farm there until you're all turned red!" and then proceeds to grief by pulling mobs into groups for 5-8 Hours. Here is the VoD of him saying it and the rest of the stream for evidence. I Don't Want to make clips of it since I don't want him to take it down.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2345309959?t=07h47m18s
  • nanfoodlenanfoodle Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Leashing needs to be adjusted. Also Alt f4 needs to be addressed.
  • PhamPham Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I think they really need to change the mob aggro system - specifically target selection/priority, in this regard so people can't weaponize mobs against other players so easily.
    "Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes." - Ephesians 6:11
  • DaaveDaave Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Still not banned.
  • lukedawukelukedawuke Member, Alpha Two
    Daave wrote: »
    Still not banned.
    cause theres nothing to ban duh
  • PhamPham Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited January 13
    Daave wrote: »
    Still not banned.
    lukedawuke wrote: »
    Daave wrote: »
    Still not banned.
    cause theres nothing to ban duh

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  • VolgarisVolgaris Member, Alpha Two
    I don't think this is harassment. You're only bothered if you go to that area. Personally I'm glad this guy is doing this stuff. I want to see how Intrepid handles it. The method and result of their action/s, if any, will be a strong factor on which my participation in this game hinges.
  • DaaveDaave Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Volgaris wrote: »
    Personally I'm glad this guy is doing this stuff. I want to see how Intrepid handles it. The method and result of their action/s, if any, will be a strong factor on which my participation in this game hinges.

    Definitely. I love PvP and will not participate in a PvX game that tolerates exploiting unfinished aggro mechanics to bypass the PvP flagging system. If that sounds like a great time to you, have fun dude.
  • SmileGurneySmileGurney Member, Alpha Two
    Time for a perma ban?
    My lungs taste the air of Time,
    Blown past falling sands…
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Volgaris wrote: »
    I don't think this is harassment. You're only bothered if you go to that area. Personally I'm glad this guy is doing this stuff. I want to see how Intrepid handles it. The method and result of their action/s, if any, will be a strong factor on which my participation in this game hinges.

    What they do and how they do it during alpha testing is no reflection at all on what they would do and how they would do it on a live game.

    It's almost as if you people think this is early access or something.
  • RPG_ruleRPG_rule Member, Alpha Two
    Why not build some sort of intelligence into the mobs where they stick to the player who trains them onto other players? The mobs could become exponentially tougher, move faster etc and ultimately just outright kill the player doing this, then reset back to their original positions.
  • KyraaxKyraax Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    While I don't agree with training mobs onto other players repeatedly without provocation, this mechanic does have a place. Imagine you're soloing and get killed and/or pushed off your camp by a group. I'd definitely bring them a few new friends to play with ;)
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  • BlightuponusallBlightuponusall Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I would like to see train griefing get sorted out. It isn't within the spirit of pvp to train mobs into a group 15 levels lower than you and loot their bodies for forsaken emblems. Those level 10s aren't going to be able to fight back against a 25, and it shouldn't be expected with the current corruption penalties for other level 25s to come save them. At level 10 I would shoot to slow them to keep them close to the mobs. It did nothing. The only thing that happened was the level 25 killed me, and I lost EXP for my trouble to try and pvp in this situation. I would like to see a fix for circumventing the pvp system like this.
  • oddsterooddstero Member, Alpha Two
    This mechanic has absolutely zero place and has already been declared as griefing by the developers. If you want to contest an area, flag up and fight for it.
  • Its_MeIts_Me Member, Alpha Two
    Steven has already stated that they would be changing how aggro works so this is being worked on.

    In all of these posts, I did not see mention of anyone reporting. If you feel this is griefing, report it with clips.
  • Stryfe 23Stryfe 23 Member, Alpha Two
    More and more game developers are releasing games in "pre Alpha" and charging us for it. People pay to play this game in "early development" and then judge the game on that experience. Again, the game is in "pre Alpha" meaning it's NO WHERE NEAR READY!

    Sure, if the developers made it available for us to test for them, they need feedback to improve it. But saying this game is bad or good at this point is a bit of a stretch....as it can change in a MAJOR way in the next year or two until it's fully released. Basically, if you can't deal with things not working as intended, your system crashing, the game crashing, simple things like AI adjustments, all driving you nuts.... well then, you probably should NOT be playing a "pre Alpha" or "early access" game in the first place.
  • PhamPham Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Changed NPC aggro, to prevent enemies from aggroing characters within range when they lose a previous target. This is to address issues with NPC training

    B)
    "Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes." - Ephesians 6:11
  • GizbanGizban Member, Braver of Worlds, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Pham wrote: »
    Changed NPC aggro, to prevent enemies from aggroing characters within range when they lose a previous target. This is to address issues with NPC training

    B)

    It's not working.

    Was running parallel with a player who had two wolves chasing him. Every other second they would take a bite out of my ass and then chase him again, bite out of my ass, chase him again...
  • DaaveDaave Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    So, were ANY of the prolific mob trainers actioned against to anyone’s knowledge?
  • Its_MeIts_Me Member, Alpha Two
    edited January 19
    Daave wrote: »
    So, were ANY of the prolific mob trainers actioned against to anyone’s knowledge?

    Steven intentionally withheld all details on what exploits were handled so that no one can hold him accountable for not addressing specific issues and exploits that many players have been asking be handled. Being intentionally vague allows him to also get away with not handling specific issues that he previously stated he would handle, such as the war dec spamming he declared was an exploit and would be addressed.

    My 'guess' (this is all we can do) is that IF the players that were repeatedly training mobs on other players was addressed, it likely occurred under the 'severe harassment' numbers where he simply warned people to stop. 🤣
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