Live Streamer Grief-Pulling Mobs for Over a Week

HslerTV, also known as Krank, has been grief-pulling mobs onto groups in the Tower of Carphin for the past week. During one of his streams, he openly stated, "You and your friends aren't gonna farm there until you all turn red! Go ahead and report me for griefing, time to make you all suffer and make you logout."

After making this statement, he spent the next five-eight hours pulling mobs into groups, disrupting gameplay. I’ve included the VoD link for full context and evidence of his actions. I chose not to clip it to avoid giving him a chance to delete the footage.

How is this kind of behavior still allowed in the game? Shouldn't this be a bannable offense?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2345309959?t=07h47m18s

He purposely doesn't save his VoD's but he forgot about this one so hopefully we can do something about it.

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Its_Me

unknowncannibal wrote: »

HslerTV, also known as Krank, has been grief-pulling mobs onto groups in the Tower of Carphin for the past week. During one of his streams, he openly stated, "You and your friends aren't gonna farm there until you all turn red! Go ahead and report me for griefing, time to make you all suffer and make you logout."

After making this statement, he spent the next five-eight hours pulling mobs into groups, disrupting gameplay. I’ve included the VoD link for full context and evidence of his actions. I chose not to clip it to avoid giving him a chance to delete the footage.

How is this kind of behavior still allowed in the game? Shouldn't this be a bannable offense?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2345309959?t=07h47m18s

He purposely doesn't save his VoD's but he forgot about this one so hopefully we can do something about it.

Wow, this is quite the toxic angry streamer, I would submit your report and video here as well. https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

unknowncannibal

Dude is unhinged, Calling everyone "maggots" .He griefs all of Carphin Tower and types this out to players in the area.

Lucascp92

100 euros to troll on an Alpha
It is, in fact, the chosen one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwRUzawAXg

tip: do we have ignore list?

unknowncannibal

I don't mute him because I want to gather more evidence against him. Sure, you can ignore his toxic comments in chat, but you can't ignore the 10 mobs he constantly trains into you and your group when you're trying to farm XP or gear in that zone. It's absurd that one person can completely lock down a zone, forcing others to either leave or go corrupt just to stop him—only for him to come back minutes later and do it all over again. This kind of behavior shouldn't be possible.

-He did this for another 4 more hours last night in Carph tower all streamed btw.

Noaani

unknowncannibal wrote: »

He did this for another 4 more hours last night in Carph tower all streamed btw.

I mean, Ashes is the kind of game where this is perfectly valid gameplay. Right now it is easier than it should be, but that is about it.

What he is saying in shat is also not against the rules at all.

Ashes is a game where you are at the mercy of other players, and they are at your mercy. If someone is stronger than you (or a guild or alliance is stronger than yours) and they don't want you running a piece of content, you won't be running that piece of content.

Right now, this player is stronger than you and doesn't want you running that content.

unknowncannibal

Noaani wrote: »

unknowncannibal wrote: »

He did this for another 4 more hours last night in Carph tower all streamed btw.

I mean, Ashes is the kind of game where this is perfectly valid gameplay. Right now it is easier than it should be, but that is about it.

What he is saying in shat is also not against the rules at all.

Ashes is a game where you are at the mercy of other players, and they are at your mercy. If someone is stronger than you (or a guild or alliance is stronger than yours) and they don't want you running a piece of content, you won't be running that piece of content.

Right now, this player is stronger than you and doesn't want you running that content.

I have and many other players have killed him, but since the corruption system is stupid and punishes you for killing him (since he's unflagged) he can just run through mobs and run into groups to wipe and not flag at all till everyone's dead and loot them. It doesn't matter if we stop all AoE and healing around him, he just runs it into people and stands there til mobs start hitting other players. This isn't fun in anyway having to deal with this guy.

Elder

unknowncannibal wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

unknowncannibal wrote: »

He did this for another 4 more hours last night in Carph tower all streamed btw.

I mean, Ashes is the kind of game where this is perfectly valid gameplay. Right now it is easier than it should be, but that is about it.

What he is saying in shat is also not against the rules at all.

Ashes is a game where you are at the mercy of other players, and they are at your mercy. If someone is stronger than you (or a guild or alliance is stronger than yours) and they don't want you running a piece of content, you won't be running that piece of content.

Right now, this player is stronger than you and doesn't want you running that content.

I have and many other players have killed him, but since the corruption system is stupid and punishes you for killing him (since he's unflagged) he can just run through mobs and run into groups to wipe and not flag at all till everyone's dead and loot them. It doesn't matter if we stop all AoE and healing around him, he just runs it into people and stands there til mobs start hitting other players. This isn't fun in anyway having to deal with this guy.

The solution there would be to have your tank drop intimidating aura and run everything into the corner so he can los the current pull against the wall where the cleric can't break los or easily lose aggro of the mobs he's pulling towards you. Then have someone flag up to slow and sleep him when he goes to pull more, he'll die to his overpull and no one gets corruption.

Noaani

unknowncannibal wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

unknowncannibal wrote: »

He did this for another 4 more hours last night in Carph tower all streamed btw.

I mean, Ashes is the kind of game where this is perfectly valid gameplay. Right now it is easier than it should be, but that is about it.

What he is saying in shat is also not against the rules at all.

Ashes is a game where you are at the mercy of other players, and they are at your mercy. If someone is stronger than you (or a guild or alliance is stronger than yours) and they don't want you running a piece of content, you won't be running that piece of content.

Right now, this player is stronger than you and doesn't want you running that content.

I have and many other players have killed him, but since the corruption system is stupid and punishes you for killing him (since he's unflagged) he can just run through mobs and run into groups to wipe and not flag at all till everyone's dead and loot them. It doesn't matter if we stop all AoE and healing around him, he just runs it into people and stands there til mobs start hitting other players. This isn't fun in anyway having to deal with this guy.

I mean, if the issue is that he is training mobs on to you, why not just train mobs on to him?

SmileGurney

unknowncannibal wrote: »

Dude is unhinged, Calling everyone "maggots" .He griefs all of Carphin Tower and types this out to players in the area.

sounds like something to report to Twitch if you ask me. ToS

lukedawuke

you know you can just cc the guy when he pulls mobs right? instead you sit here crying about "disrupting gameplay" (lol) and call for bans on twitch and the game like some 5 year old. contesting farmspots is the lifeblood of the game and training mobs isnt new either (i know mob leash aggro will get changed)

unknowncannibal

lukedawuke wrote: »

you know you can just cc the guy when he pulls mobs right? instead you sit here crying about "disrupting gameplay" (lol) and call for bans on twitch and the game like some 5 year old. contesting farmspots is the lifeblood of the game and training mobs isnt new either (i know mob leash aggro will get changed)

I'm pretty sure you've never played this game at least PvP endgame. I'm a fighter who has 2 trip abilities and Knockout (incapacitate).There is Diminishing returns on CC, You can CC them when they're training but as soon as they take a single hit, it breaks them out incapacitate and you can only do 2 trips, a total of 2-3 at most 4 secs of CC then you're immune to it for 10-15 sec, same with incapacitate they're immune to it for 10 seconds once incapacitate ends. There is nothing you can do against a Cleric who can spam heal themselves with 4-5 mobs on them and not die, but please at least have the basic knowledge of that. WoW Noob

PS, I trip him constantly, Knockout and have slow on my bow/sword with 5-10 wounded on him, it doesn't do shit without myself or someone else going corrupted.

Terranigma1

If contesting farmspots is supposed to be the 'lifeblood' of the game, then you will eventually have the chance to enjoy the game with all those other 124 people worldwide who actually enjoy wasting their lifetime like this while the rest of us has moved on to another game. Kudos to you.

Noaani

unknowncannibal wrote: »

WoW Noob

I do find the notion of someone that can't deal with a mob training calling someone else this.

It is literally what we used to call people thst couldn't deal with mob trains like these.

So, you're a WoW noob.

unknowncannibal

Noaani wrote: »

unknowncannibal wrote: »

WoW Noob

I do find the notion of someone that can't deal with a mob training calling someone else this.

It is literally what we used to call people thst couldn't deal with mob trains like these.

So, you're a WoW noob.

This coming from a guy who thinks a mob trainer is a "Stronger Player" and that you should be at the mercy of them. Good logic, you must use it irl

Back to the topic at hand, this is obviously just poor gameplay to go against, Train mobs, bait corruption, die and run back. Repeat. You can make other players go corrupted to lose items on their character and give them blight. (receive a permanent debuff) which makes people even if they die corrupted, res at the emberspring corrupted losing up to 6 items on their character.
While all you have to do it farm 1 hour of mobs at most to get rid of xp dampening at 25 with no permanent damage to your character.

Volgaris

Mean people in online video games?!? Who'd have thunk it?

Mob trains suck, and it's super easy to do. If you do it is it an exploit? I don't think so. It's just the current state of the alpha. But at least you have the option to try and kill him, or train mobs back to him. Oh the fun that will be.... I wanna kill monsters and hunt dragons not trolls

But even if they fix this the game is still lean towards a griefing, ganking, troll fest. Not sure who's going to want to play it. Maybe enough to call it a success.

Noaani

unknowncannibal wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

unknowncannibal wrote: »

WoW Noob

I do find the notion of someone that can't deal with a mob training calling someone else this.

It is literally what we used to call people thst couldn't deal with mob trains like these.

So, you're a WoW noob.

This coming from a guy who thinks a mob trainer is a "Stronger Player" and that you should be at the mercy of them. Good logic, you must use it irl

Yeah, but they are.

The fact that they keep killing you and taking your stuff proves this. Well, I say taking your stuff, they probably have it all already.

You may not like the way they are killing you, but as it stands right now, that player is playing this game as it is today better than you are.

Anything any other player in this game can do, you can also do. No one has an unfair advantage over you. So, the appropriate response is for you to get better.

saelket

Seems like you have a few extra chromosomes, because you are not that bright.
Also seems like your scking every streamers D, not just here across all the forum. Of you're done can land you another to choke on.
Fcks like you are the real reason games with actual potential are declining in playerbase and support. Because you think just because you're living off your parents money anyone can and everyone is a nolifer.
In an mmo setting especially. Sandbox mmo, I know that you have no clue how an actual mmo should be, your interactions with other players will define your your future results. So by that getting enough reports should get you banned. End of story.
Also touch grass once in a while, your mother might be rotting on the sofa in the living room

saelket

Noaani wrote: »

unknowncannibal wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

unknowncannibal wrote: »

He did this for another 4 more hours last night in Carph tower all streamed btw.

I mean, Ashes is the kind of game where this is perfectly valid gameplay. Right now it is easier than it should be, but that is about it.

What he is saying in shat is also not against the rules at all.

Ashes is a game where you are at the mercy of other players, and they are at your mercy. If someone is stronger than you (or a guild or alliance is stronger than yours) and they don't want you running a piece of content, you won't be running that piece of content.

Right now, this player is stronger than you and doesn't want you running that content.

I have and many other players have killed him, but since the corruption system is stupid and punishes you for killing him (since he's unflagged) he can just run through mobs and run into groups to wipe and not flag at all till everyone's dead and loot them. It doesn't matter if we stop all AoE and healing around him, he just runs it into people and stands there til mobs start hitting other players. This isn't fun in anyway having to deal with this guy.

I mean, if the issue is that he is training mobs on to you, why not just train mobs on to him?

Maybe because if his not a tank and you are with a group with a tank you gonna aggro off of him landing him free xp for basically afking after the pull. Which is not intended.
Are you american somehow? Because basrd on your low mental capacities you would fit in there perfectly.
How do you know it is perfectly intended gameplay when the actual game and rules are not even out? Are you somehow disabled mentally, because you can't think 2 steps forward and about actual consequences of any actions. All your comments are literal trash with no real argument.

Andi

LOL that thick german accent.

Daave

He still isn’t banned. Steven’s already made it clear the aggro system is not functioning as intended and allowing for this, hence why it is clearly an exploit allowing people to avoid actual PvP.

Diagnostixx and AmericanRedCross were doing the same thing in Carphin all yesterday on Lyneth. Yes already reported.

If you want the spot, flag the hell up

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