Attacking a world boss should flag you as a combatant

Current state of corruption and world bosses mean that it's easy to turn pvp contests into pve contests

If attackers of Tumok and Firebrand were flagged for combat, it would not punish people for pvping over the objective.

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Blightuponusall

Agreed, it shouldn't be assumed that you're the first group to see the world boss so you get to kill it. There should be some more risk involved with that.

Veeshan

I 100% agree any world raid bosses need to flag people as purple or have a 50-100m aura around that flags everyone within an area around the boss

Malva

Norththemage wrote: »

Current state of corruption and world bosses mean that it's easy to turn pvp contests into pve contests

If attackers of Tumok and Firebrand were flagged for combat, it would not punish people for pvping over the objective.

Agree.

Otr

Why only bosses?

akabear

/no..

would make it even harder to see friendly from foe.

Mhyth

That opens up the opportunity for even lone players to CC or kill healers or otherwise interfere and troll with absolutely ZERO CONSEQUENCE.

Pham

I don't think this is a good idea.

Spif

Mhyth wrote: »

That opens up the opportunity for even lone players to CC or kill healers or otherwise interfere and troll with absolutely ZERO CONSEQUENCE.

How is it zero consequence? That lone player is flagged and killable

For the OP:

1) I think some bosses should be that way, but not all. We're in Alpha, so there are not a lot of bosses to do different things with
2) Flag when attacking the boss only, rather than an area. That's more "opt-in"

Blightuponusall

Spif wrote: »

Mhyth wrote: »

That opens up the opportunity for even lone players to CC or kill healers or otherwise interfere and troll with absolutely ZERO CONSEQUENCE.

How is it zero consequence? That lone player is flagged and killable

For the OP:

1) I think some bosses should be that way, but not all. We're in Alpha, so there are not a lot of bosses to do different things with
2) Flag when attacking the boss only, rather than an area. That's more "opt-in"

I believe the intent was specifically for those two world bosses, as they are out in the open and drop the best gear in the game. Currently it would just be a first tag bonus and a dps race, not real combat between guilds/node citizens.

I also agree, there are absolutely consequences to actions like that, including and not limited to getting camped by the guild that you're attacking. The consequences are decided by the players involved, as they should be. That is very in line with the PVX style of gameplay.

nanfoodle

No ty. You want the reward of non consensual combat then you need to be ready to take that risk.

Mhyth

Spif wrote: »

Mhyth wrote: »

That opens up the opportunity for even lone players to CC or kill healers or otherwise interfere and troll with absolutely ZERO CONSEQUENCE.

How is it zero consequence? That lone player is flagged and killable

Don't be blatantly dishonest. Being killed when not corrupted(which is exactly what the OP is asking for) doesn't qualify as a consequence. A single character death is near meaningless in all cases unless you are carrying a large amount of glint or resources.

Spif

Blatantly dishonest eh? They die, take durability damage, xp debt, respawn and have to travel back, and possibly end up on a KoS list. Sure, in alpha KoS lists matter less and the rest is about 15 minutes of inconvenience.

But zero consequence is hyperbole. It's low consequences matched up to low chances of success. They're trying to take down a raid solo in your example

truelyyy

agreed

truelyyy

Mhyth wrote: »

That opens up the opportunity for even lone players to CC or kill healers or otherwise interfere and troll with absolutely ZERO CONSEQUENCE.

that's the risk when attacking a world boss, it's meant to be a PvX game not a PvE game

truelyyy

nanfoodle wrote: »

No ty. You want the reward of non consensual combat then you need to be ready to take that risk.

well if the world boss would flag then it would be the reward of consensual combat so your logic doesn't make much sense.

nanfoodle

truelyyy wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

No ty. You want the reward of non consensual combat then you need to be ready to take that risk.

well if the world boss would flag then it would be the reward of consensual combat so your logic doesn't make much sense.

Yes it does, you have three state with this flagging system. Flagging green is a option. World bosses are PvE event with the option for PvP. People who want to do PvE and choose to flag green, should not have that taken away from them. I get auto flagging for PvP events like caravans and the like. You want to take my PvE loot, then you should have to risk losing your loot when you get corruption. I should be able to take your gear as well. Thats 100% the way the game is designed. Risk and reward.

Spif

I'm pretty sure they've already said in Dev chats that there will be PvP enabled world events, and I assume by that they mean world bosses too. Possibly not all world boss events will be PvP enabled or not every time they spawn.

Assuming a "little of both", I just want a clear opt-in for PvP events. Tagging the boss and getting flagged sounds a lot cleaner than a sudden area-wide flagging, especially if the boss roams

Imnotkio

the problem with your solution is that it allows for instant bombs. One raid is killing the boss, it's flagged. The other raid is not hitting the boss therefore not flagged. If they want, they can coordinate and throw all AoEs on the ppl doing bosses and kill them before they have a chance to react. The killed raid then respawns and does the same to the other raid. No actual fights

That wouldn't happen with a boss arena pvp radius. Once you're in you can be killed so both parties are on equal footing

Kpz

Has not been an issue so far, just throw a war dec at the group doing the world boss

nanfoodle

Kpz wrote: »

Has not been an issue so far, just throw a war dec at the group doing the world boss

Ya that is getting way out of hand and needs balance.

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